Seems like the app stores could derail this by simply not approving the app outside of Russia, which would fall outside of Russia’s jurisdiction to do anything about.
Russia to enforce location tracking app on all foreigners in Moscow
Submitted 10 months ago by moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
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sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 months ago
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
or… better yet, not agree to the Russia’s terms and prevent the app outright?
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 months ago
That’s kinda my point. Even if Russia tries to order them to make it available, they can’t do so except to Russian users, which defeats the purpose.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s incredible how Putin was able to turn Russia’s image from “occasionally drunk, but beloved funny uncle” to “scumbag murderer rapist” in a but more than a decade.
It has always been a sketchy place, but they at least kept an okay image up, and a lot of people in the cities enjoyed a significant quality of life increase since the 2000s. I have some Russian colleagues who fled before/after the war, and I see their sorrow as they experience the horror Russia is doing to Ukraine and its own citizens. You cannot choose where you are born, and they are sad to see the decline of the country they grew up in.
oakward@feddit.org 10 months ago
Yep. This was the image we had from the Russians. A bit odd and drunk but reasonable people. All gone
philpo@feddit.org 10 months ago
The war started in 2014 but somehow half of Europe and all of the US forgot.
Not to mention what happened in Georgia. Or what happened in Chechnya.
Or with people living in Moscow just because Putler wanted to start a war. Or journalists.
Sorry,but Russia never was a beloved uncle. Russia was always the “shady, violent, uncle who can’t keep his hand off his kids but everyone ignores that because some family image they need to uphold and furthermore while he is quite poor he makes great gifts to the rest of the family. So everyone tolerates him.”
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 10 months ago
Russia had some kind of chance during the wild 90s, before Putin and his fellow chekists retook all control. In some ways the West should’ve had a different approach to Russia during this period of time and in the early 00s. Not that anyone or anything but Russian pride and megalomania, and Putin’s ambitions, are to blame for the current situation. At this point Russia has to be defeated and their overblown self-understanding changed.
Russia was kind of the drunk uncle before Putin’s intensification, filled with vodka drinking bear wrestlers, insane driving, and comrade jokes. This personified especially in Jeltsin’s behaviour
slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That’s why I was specifically talking about image
Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 months ago
people sitll going to russia?
raltoid@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes, but it’s basically just former soviet states and China that visit in noticable numbers.
Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
A lot of people from Middle Asia come there for seasonal work (mainly construction and farming). For migrants its good money, for russia it was kind of necessary before the war because of Russia’s aging population, and essential after the war. Like, it will collapse industries if migrants stop coming.
So its strange that putin&co keep stoking xenophobia. Though, when did economic sense stopped a fascist from doing fascism.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Usual visitors are USA’s GOP, France’s RN, Germany’s AfD, etc…
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
We need to wait until we’re all there at once, and then decide that air travel out of Russia is too much of an international threat, and ban it. They can have a long and informative drive across half of rural Russia in order to get back.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Coming soon to USA in like a few months 👀
Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 months ago
trump does get alot of ideas from putin.
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 10 months ago
attaches tracking device to feral dog
jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Don’t they have a bunch of dogs in Moscow that like take the subway and shit?
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Even better, the feral dogs are commuting too. chef’s kiss
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Unless they have a Windows 10 app, that won’t work for me.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
Why do they need an app instead of just using cell tower data? I guess you just take a flip phone then.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Apps are easier, and they can design the app so they they query a list of all your other apps. They’ll know if you used any encrypted messaging apps, so later they know to search your chat logs and you cannot have plausible deniability (unless you use a second phone for your encrypted messaging apps).
If they make it mandatory, using a flip phone is gonna be breaking the law.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Holy shit, this is insane. No sane person would put up with this
Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee 10 months ago
How would they gain your fingerprint? I didn’t think iOS or Android actually passed that on to apps I thought the OS handled biometric authentication and just informed the app that the fingerprint matched?
Gork@lemm.ee 10 months ago
“I lost my phone” is gonna be heard a lot from now on over there.
Then they can say the classic line, “Don’t you all have phones?!”
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Surely the pro play would be simply not to go to Russia in the first place. Thinking about it that was always the pro play.
random_character_a@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Then you’ll get 4kg ankle monitor with 200$ deposit, which you’ll never get back, even if you return it. Complaints will be handled by spending undetermined time in a government “resort” with fun quarry themed activities.
Ruskies have this all this figured out.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
That’s as good as saying “I lost my Driver’s License” after you get pulled over.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
But they can look that up.
They can’t look up your whereabouts for the last few hours when your phone has been sitting on the coffee table.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say losing your phone is probably gonna result in a penalty
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 10 months ago
vxx@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s nl not ml
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
even worse, it’s .world.