The Home Depot tax at work!

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Which cut line is correct? Don’t know, both sides are screwed twisted beyond belief. This is the start cut, the first 2.5" inches are for kid’s projects… Another chance at loosing a finger or two. The worse part is that these were the best picks of the day. Every other 2X6 (1.5x5.5 for the non-retarded among us) were worse splintered, bent, twisted. They need to dry the wood slowly in a well spaced stack. I wouldn’t wish any of this wood on anyone for anything.

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LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

(1.5x5.5 for the non-retarded among us)

I am really not a fan of how common this word is becoming again in everyday vernacular.

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- TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It never went away, people just started getting offended on others behalf more
  
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  - BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I am autistic and do not appreciate it at all. On whose behalf am I offended?
    
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- frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It gets an automatic downvote and block from me, and a report depending on the instance.
  
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db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Wrong community, but at the same time you’re right.

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- ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean it is some shit wood that could become a shit post.
  
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  - altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Exactly! Shit wood for a shit post!
    
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- kaeurennetwo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  - OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Wrong comment, but at the same time you’re right.
    
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DoubleDongle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Brotip: The Depot isn’t even cheap, it’s just bad. At least in my region, framing lumber from small-time lumber yards is like 2-4% cheaper than the same stuff at a Home Depot or Lowe’s, while simultaneously being considerably better stock. I get custom orders like doors and windows faster and cheaper too. I saved a couple hundred bucks on a flooring project by skipping the Depot a few weeks back.

Fuck the box stores. Slow, expensive, and bad. They have nothing left but brand recognition.

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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I work at Lowe’s and am stunned at what people buy there. In the garden area, why would you count on Lowe’s to have sod?! Go to a fucking sod place if you want more than a few pieces. People pay stunning amounts of money for bags of various rocks when they can go down the road and pay 1/4 that at, guess what, the fucking rock place.
  
  We’re a big box store for FFS. We’re not the best or cheapest at anything, we just carry it all.
  
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- D8lineContentCre8or@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Protip: Home Depot is much cheaper on price.
  
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sxan@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
15 years ago, I built an extension on a barn stall to suit my wife’s draft horse.

I am not a carpenter.

I was not trained. I had no experience.

What I had was Home Depot, and I’d seen enough framed work and enough videos about people building buildings, and the belief that I could “figure it out.” Also, this was a barn in rural country, and people wouldn’t be living in it so I wasn’t too concerned. So I bought a Saws-All and cut a giant hole in the side of the barn.

Long story short, I did figure it out, and it wasn’t half bad. Framing the roof gave me the most trouble; I kind of understood the theory, but I had the feeling it wasn’t as neat as it could be; it was the only part of the project that required joining. It had proper siding, a proper roof (with some composite corrugated roofing), and even a ventilated peak with corrugation foam under the top-thingy to frustrate wasps. It had a big-ass sliding door, which I bought pre-made. It had a12" ramp from the door into a paddock made of packed 3/4-minus (second hardest thing). The inside, like the rest of the barn, was just 1x4 horizontal planks, stained, which made everything easier. It didn’t need to be fancy, and the ceilings were all open, so no ceiling work.

In the end, I learned several things:

Home Depot has everything you need to build a small house, including truck rental to get the material to the house.

I waaay overbuilt it, out of paranoia that I would under-build it. I had double supports every 16" and horizontal cross beams. Like the rest of the barn, there was no floor - it was all packed 3/4-minus - but I poured a 1’x3’ concrete foundation over basebed gravel for the walls. I’m not certain anymore that the original barn had more that 4x4 posts sunk in concrete. I believe that, had I been experienced with building, I could have done the job with far less material.

Home Depots wood is absolute shit. I screwed double 2x6s mainly to try to get the damned things straight enough to build on. And I bought only pressure-treated wood because I wasn’t certain that my siding job would be perfect, but also because this was open to the elements.

I learned to hate Phillips-head screws with a passion that’s lasted the rest of my life so far.

Someone with no experience can do something like build a glorified shed. A 14’ tall, 16x16, sided and corrugated roofed shed, but a shed.

I was pleased with the result, and I’m grateful for Home Depot because there’s no way I could have done that without them. Not within the season of weekends that it took me.

The only wood I’ll buy from Home Depot is unfinished shelving wood. Their shelving stuff is outrageously expensive, but it’s clean and straight, and properly cured.
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- altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I used to love Philips head screws until one day I tried torx. I’m never going back. I have some Philips around but you know the bits get worn and that damages screws. Sometimes you can’t get the screws out. I just finished a large concrete wall project with all the forms held by the same 20 or so T25 screws. Its crazy how good and reusable they are.
  
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  - sxan@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Torx FTW. I only use Phillips in situations where Torx aren’t available. They still aren’t easily available in as many varieties as Phillips.
    
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  - snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This guy screws.
    
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- sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  I learned to hate Phillips-head screws with a passion that’s lasted the rest of my life so far
  
  You sound Canadian. You’re ready to enter the wonderful world of Robertson screws.
  
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  - sxan@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m not! But I like very close to them, and the hardware stores around here usually have at least some Robertson.
    
    I do prefer Torx, but failing that I’d chose Robertson.
    
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Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Get used to it because Trump will certainly make it harder and harder to get wood from Canada into the US and Canadian wood is of higher quality because it grows more slowly.

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- MBech@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The wood will be stronger, sure, but in modern framing you don’t actually need the added strength. Slowly grown wood is going to be as crooked as fast grown wood. It’s a question about how and where it’s kept. If the wood goes through a lot of drying and remoisturing (not a native speaker, it seems like the wrong word, sorry) the wood will begin to twist and turn. If it’s being kept at a stable moisture and temperature, or at least being dried out consistently, it will stay straight.
  
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  - sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Slowly grown wood is going to be as crooked as fast grown wood
    
    No, it’s not. Slow growth leads to a tighter grain, greater density, and reduced moisture content. All of those things make it stronger and more stable. That means less twisting and warping.
    
    But because it is increasingly rare, it is generally more expensive.
    
    I recently did a renovation on my 1953 bungalow. The Douglas fir studs I removed from a wall are both laser straight and tough as guts. That wood is so hard that you can’t drive a modern nail into it without drilling a pilot hole first.
    
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  - Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    But wouldn’t wood that’s more dense absorb less water in the same amount of time though? Meaning that more dense wood would better resist the abuse of transport.
    
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Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There are people who wish wood upon others?

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- Holyginz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean, I have, but it was a wildly different type of wood and different circumstance.
  
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  - altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    May I get wood? I don’t need the circumcision part.
    
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Supervisor194@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Home Despot

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- altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  You got the questions.
  We got the questions.
  
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  - altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    A Romanian friend of mine used to say that about the home depot slogan when they got rid of the experts.
    
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bstix@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The lines don’t matter as long as you don’t cut it.

Place it, then cut it. The cut will be correct if you cut it where you want it cut, not where you think in advance that you want it cut.

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- altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Like the old man said “measure twice, cut as many times as so can until its right”
  
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  - D8lineContentCre8or@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I say measure once, cut twice. If you’ve cut short, just use your board stretcher.
    
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  - oyo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Whenever possible, don’t measure at all. Mark it in place.
    
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captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What were you expecting out of framing lumber?

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- altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  ± 1/8" maybe? Maybe ±1/16". Not -2" on both sides and the whole thing twisted.
  
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CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Note that it will warp further when you get it home since Home Depot wood is unlikely to be fully dried and the environment in your home will be different as well.

You’ll need to wait a couple of weeks to see what shape the wood settles into. If you try to build something now it might end up warping after construction.

Even if you’re working with S4S lumber you still need to let it acclimate and then finish milling it if you really need very square pieces.

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Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s why you always buy oversized and mill it down to size and squareness.

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