Submitted 3 days ago by cheese_greater@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
I would never have known that Lemmy existed, if it weren’t for redditors telling me about it around the time Spez went nuclear on 3rd party apps. And here I thought that everyone on Lemmy came from reddit.
FWIW, I’ve heard that they’ve recently been censoring any mentions of Lemmy. They’re obviously afraid of reddit becoming a repeat of digg. Which is why they’ve been slowly enshittifying the place instead of doing all at once like digg did. Fuck reddit, and fuck Spez.
Fuck Reddit and fuck spez! Like you said, the second redditors became an ad commodity that site should have died an undignified death.
Now it’s a place for Nazi sympathizers and boot licks.
Several subs have automods set to autodelete any comments referencing Lemmy or links to it, not to mention the manual deletions by mods. It’s definitely being talked about, despite these attempts.
There’s a French speaking /r/ over there that bans an @jlai.lu user and remove their post when they link to Lemmy.
There’s also an astroturfing campaign against it as well over there - I’ve noticed a lot of bot comments and bullshit when I post links to here from there.
The fediverse represents the collapse of the techno oligarchy.
How could mark zuckerberg establish Facebook when there are ad free alternatives?
They will try to outlaw activity pub in USA. Watch and see.
No, they will just make server operators liable for obeying any conservative who has an issue with any content there and can make the right format of complaint.
I suspect that instances outside the US will simply be too small a factor to bother with. Small, scattered opposition that is subject to deliberate trolling and disruption at any scale anyone feels like deploying will simply not be worth bothering with.
This is all assuming if a big internet-censorship operation starts (which it seems likely that it will). I think it will mainly focus on large based-in-the-US companies which host large services. Notably among them will be Bluesky. The only impact it will have on anything ActivityPub-based is that they will shut down or muzzle some big instances inside the US, and then, the point being made, they will probably move on, leaving instances outside the US to do whatever they want. That’s my prediction.
Oh, also, Palantir’s surveillance will incorporate people’s comments into their overall dossier on the person, regardless of where their instance is, which means that anyone who maintains a big presence on an ActivityPub network will be putting themselves at person risk of neo-deportation to somewhere they can never get free from. It will still be legal to do, though. Sure.
You overestimate the Lemmy US userbase. Only because we speak English doesn’t mean we’re all from the US. Language-based instances like feddit.org for example may be small, but its users engage in the whole lemmyverse.
I suspect that instances outside the US will simply be too small a factor to bother with.
Aren’t the largest (by user population) Lemmy instances already located outside of the USA? .world is in the Netherlands, I believe. Sopuli.xyz in Finland, etc. Even Midwest.social is not hosted in the USA.
Lemmy is going to end capitalist exploitation of social media, just like email did for sending messages
/s
If lemmy users are willing to use clients with ads, a normal person would too
Reddit as in the company? Of course, the first Reddit search result has been manually set to a “Stay away from Lemmy” post.
Ya b/c it’s not plastered with ads, what’s even the point of this place if the advertisers haven’t swarmed it? :)
I learned about Lemmy from reddit.
Soooo…
Same. But not like anything popular/visible.
I found it while sorting by controversial. Then when I got banned for some BS, decided to finally figure this whole “Lemmy” thing out.
I’ve seen a few big threads talking about Lemmy (because people posted links to them here, on Lemmy), but at the same time I’ve also seen people here posting their experiences with such discussions being removed.
I would have to suspect the admins aren’t doing anything, but the individual mods of some ass-kissing communities do so because they feel threatened on behalf of the company they volunteer to prop up.
Do you mean Reddit the company, or the Reddit the community?
I think the answers are “No”, and “A little. It often gets deleted when mentioned.”
Yes
by “The Reddit” you mean the owners/shareholders? Why would they do that?
Does “Reddit” acknowledge the existence of Facebook, Twitter or Digg?
There is literally a ton of Twitter subs
What does that have to do with anything? You think Reddit not banning them is acknowledgement?
I do see redditors bringing it up from time to time, but those who know about it and stayed usually complain about not understanding instances or not getting enough engagement with niche communities.
Which is understandable, if you’ve never been one of the first people on a social media platform. They have no clue how utterly surface-level their issues are.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but, were they to get the level of engagement they wanted, wouldn’t most broadly federated small instances close due to increased hosting costs? I don’t think we’re physically able to support the number of people required to create broad niche community discussion.
I don’t see much talk of Lemmy on Reddit, but I’m primarily only on Reddit for a small handful of niche subreddits where no one talks about these things anyway.
ceiron@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I think we can safely assume the large majority of Reddit users don’t even have the slightest clue about the existence of Lemmy - unfortunately.
Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s fine with me, I can’t stand most the people on Reddit
mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 days ago
We are our own unique ecosystem. It's fine as is.
Addv4@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Pretty much. I still occasionally have to go to reddit for some random questions, and the difference in tone is often rather jarring.
ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 days ago
Who does you think used Lemmy though?
RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 days ago
My experience with people on Reddit was better than the one with people on Lemmy, but i am probably an exception considering the amount of people saying Lemmy is much better than Reddit
ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I remember suggesting Lemmy to mods of a popular subreddit, during the API Shutdown 2 years ago
They told me they had no idea how to even use it and would rather just use Discord. I check a couple months ago and they still exist on Reddit…
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 3 days ago
How does Discord even enter one’s mind as an alternative to Reddit?
Also, they have no idea how to use it? Bullshit. If they can use Reddit, they can use Lemmy.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 days ago
You would not welcome most of those people anyway.