A Tesla influencer randomly caught his odometer double-counting mileage on video. Wild.
Wait, isn’t tinkering with odometers like super fucking illegal in europe?
Tesla's "Predictive" Odometers Had 9+ Drivers Complaining of Inaccuracy Before Lawsuit. We Even Found Video!
Submitted 6 days ago by KayLeadfoot@fedia.io to technology@lemmy.world
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riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 days ago
bluewing@lemm.ee 5 days ago
It’s supposed to be in the US also.
xav@programming.dev 5 days ago
Not in Germany. Here in France we know to never buy a used German car : the odometer would certainly have been tinkered with.
cmhe@lemmy.world 5 days ago
This is misleading, it is illegal in Germany, if it is about changing the odometer to a wrong record, and only legal to correct it, if it was broken or is replaced.
TRock@feddit.dk 5 days ago
How the hell is this not illegal in Germany?! They love to over regulate everything
a4ng3l@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I would hope so. I would not be surprised that this is a US special…
Cypher@lemmy.world 6 days ago
influencer
We need to call them what they are; shills.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Seriously. This dude is delusional.
overload@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
Insanity hey. Goes to show you can very easily be wealthy but not smart.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Pathetic losers. And, even “Nazis” if they’re still in the Tesla community.
RoundSparrow@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Pathetic losers. And, even “Nazis” if they’re still in the Tesla community.
I see you go all over Lemme systems communicating in Twitter-length reactions, behaving like Elon Musk and Donald Trump on social machines.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Yeah I used to think that all these Tesla fan channels on YouTube and Instagram were because the brand was seen as somehow special and exciting, like Apple used to be under Steve Jobs. But now I’ve come to the conclusion that most of them are being paid under the table and not declaring it, because their collective reactions to the past year or more of insanity just don’t pass the sniff test.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I admit I didn’t watch the video — I’ve trained YouTube’s algorithm well at this point and don’t want Tesla content — but what the fuck is a predictive odometer? The tires roll a certain distance. We’ve had odometers for like 75 years.
ogeist@lemmy.world 6 days ago
The article mentions that Tesla is kind of justifying the behavior by saying it is based on energy consumption and some other bullshit. The expectation according to SAE, which I find very interesting, is to be in a range of +/- 4% and for GPS enabled odometers+/- 2.5%, Tesla is missing the mark for at least 36%.
SavageCreation@lemmy.world 6 days ago
So we traded a proven, reliable, physical laws based method (wheel roll) in favor of unreliable electronics. Nice.
50MYT@lemmy.world 6 days ago
The video shows it going like 14999 to 15001 skipping 15000.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You’d think they would make it increment every half mile instead of doing something stupid like this.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
You can remove YouTube videos from your watch history, so they don’t influence your algorithm.
AugustWest@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Or don’t use YouTube on their platform.
besselj@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
A product that has a warranty which depends on any “predictive” metric is probably a scam, tbh.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Their insurance is (was?) kind of like that as well if you get the saftey score one. While some things are more general like following distance, they have one for forward collision warnings.
I’m not sure how much time you’ve spent in a Tesla, but that system is notorious for going off incorrectly. It’s specifically really bad with parked cars on the side of the road on turns. So you’re driving along, and it goes off and now your insurance premiums are more expensive.
I don’t think you could find a single Tesla owner who hasn’t had multiple false warnings, and consistently in certain circumstances.
So someone of course starts a lawsuit and Tesla initially defends itself, but just last week or something like that, it’s no longer part of the safety score
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Amazing the Tesla dev team that made this was dumb enough to actually put it in the UI in real-time. Just updates the mileage behind the scenes in data, then only update the UI slowly along the way. Not actually double counting in the UI visibly fast lmaoo
riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You think the dev team made the decision about this?
eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
Also if I’m the dev on this project and I’ve been told to do this, this is exactly how to implement it. Malicious compliance baybeee
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
At a minimum they went along with it. “I was just following orders” is never an acceptable answer.
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 5 days ago
Ui team probably not connected to milage cheating team. This is the kind of thing you can’t do test cases for, so unexpected “bugs” will get out.
clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 6 days ago
What in the actual hell is a “Predictive” odometer?
Saleh@feddit.org 5 days ago
“Whenever you want to scam people as a company, just invent some fancy words that sound like innovation” odometer
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 6 days ago
It predict when the Tesla is going to fauk and void the guarantee ?
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 days ago
“You should have driven this much after owning the car this long, so we’re going to put that in the odometer.”
Was my guess.
Probably to void warranties, make cars come back sooner for preventative maintenance, and come back sooner for leases.
theneverfox@pawb.social 5 days ago
It predicts that Tesla could save money by padding the numbers, and does a little fraud automagically
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That’s soooo many felonies, but Trump will just pardon them.
No wonder he was worried about going to prison if Kamala won.
Monstrosity@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Video link for the layzee.
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m old school so an odometer should never do anything other than measure wheel rotations with a multiplier of circumference of the tire.
Maybe if you wanna get fancy have the multiplier occasionally recalibrated based on GPS but that’s it.
doodledup@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Breaking news. Learned something new today.
noxypaws@pawb.social 6 days ago
One of the drivers mentioned in this article has a youtube video showing his odometer going from 124,999 to 125,001, completely skipping 125,000. One of the comments asks him to reach out to the law firm handling the class action lawsuit, but the owner replies with:
This mindset is so frustrating. Class action lawsuits are legit, they hold companies accountable and they pay out cash to people. To say that they only enrich law firms is not just wrong, but I think actually harmful to repeat like he has, especially in the great age of enshittification where everything tries to force binding arbitration agreements into every contract and agreement.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
Sounds like he’s more loyal to Tesla than to the consumers it hurt
poopkins@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Brace for downvoting from the Teslaholics cult.
GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Well if the law firm lay 20 cents check after making millions, what’s the point.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 5 days ago
The point is that the company being sued has to pay those millions in the first place. The law firm does pay itself rather well for that work, but I’d consider class actions to be one of the more defensible legal actions.
noxypaws@pawb.social 5 days ago
I got like $50 a month or two ago from an Apple settlement.
raltoid@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’d be a lot of money that the excuse is just a lie he thinks make him sound like the good person he knows he is not.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I mean, the guy is not wrong. Class actions lawsuits have notoriously low payout while law firms pocket millions.
However, it’s a tool to hold companies somewhat accountable.
The guy should join a class action lawsuit so that Tesla stop their fuckery, but it is understandable that he doesn’t want to spend time on that considering the shitty payout.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 days ago
Possibly comes from experience with the shitty ones. I was involved in one for a now-defunct tech school I went to and all I got out of it was like $100. I didn’t have to put any time into it but that certainly didn’t make me whole.
gamer@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Actually based. The law firm is going to make a bunch of money from this and pay out a pittance to people (like a $50 Tesla merch gift card or some shit). Charging a consulting fee isn’t going to kill the case, it’s just going to make the law firm slightly less money, and they’d be stupid to ignore such a powerful piece of evidence.