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Plant something ASAP on that naked land or it will all be carried away by rain and wind.
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Submitted 5 weeks ago by amksenin@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Looks like someone was farming it before, OP should contact them first since they will know about the potential and problems. Maybe make a percentage-of-profits deal rather than a lease. The timing is good for a crop, if they move quickly.
mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Plant whatever everybody around this area is planting and ASAP. He can think about what to do next year, but not this one.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
You can still plant something on it, but you have to be fast if you want to harvest it. Alternatively you could plant grass/clove on it and the figure out what to do with the land afterwards.
However, if you want to do a “split profits” deal you have to make sure, that you dont take to much for yourself, because most farmers won’t do this if leasing it is actually cheaper. Also it might be hard to get someone to lease it for a single year and at this time most stuff is already planted which makes it even harder.
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.
Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.
Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.
Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.
Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits
libra00@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s totally where I thought they were going with that.
Geobloke@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Move the stone wall out each night and slowly claim more land like an insidious virus
Geobloke@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
You also need to move the stone fence out each night to expand your domain
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Make sure you use organic short half life poisons. Don’t poison the surrounding areas with rainwater runoff just because you want to live in a nightmarish hellscape.
Desolate responsibly.
cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 5 weeks ago
For now? Lease as much of that land as you can. Cover crop the rest. You do not want bare, tilled soil sitting there for a year+ as you figure out bigger plans.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Lease as much of that land as you can.
Careful. The Lemmy mob is watching 👀
cleanandsunny@literature.cafe 5 weeks ago
Ha. Anyone who’s farmed knows that ag leases are such a different scenario and very negotiable, especially if you are working with someone who wants to see the land in production or help young farmers etc. I WISH there had been more willing landlords when I was farming, it took me two years to find a place at all. Lemmings can hate once they’ve negotiated their own ag lease 👀 👩🏻🌾
Asafum@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
Mmmmm local grown food and a landlord!? 🍽️ 🍽️ 🍽️
:P
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a “total farm experience”. Sell them as a “rustic handgrown” crop.
Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️
ThrawnSolo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
And they would totally dig that shit up and call it an experience too. Do it.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Unfortunately though I think OP being an hour from an airport is gonna preclude tourists from being a financial factor in the area.
There was so much meth to be had.
Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
💫Ascention💫
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
This is also what I suggested (not exactly but about the same concept). Biggest problem might be, that its maybe a bit far off from the next city.
seeigel@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How close are you to high voltage transmission lines? This might be good for an commercial sized solar farm.
amksenin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
There’s a solar farm 1km away. I heard here it would require like $1m of investment and it pays for itself in 7 years but that’s above my pay grade AFAIK
foggy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I mean…
So do 1/10th of that. 100k pays for itself in 7 years? Still have 9/10 of your land to play with.
Just a thought. turnkey operations are geist for land ownership.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
You could get a smaller amount of panels at first, and later expand your solar farm. But I don’t know if that would keep the costs low enough to be manageable for you, as solar panels aren’t even the most expensive part of a solar farm. The biggest upfront investment would probably be all the electrical gear, e.g. the inverter, etc.
You could try getting a loan. Demand for renewable electricity is pretty high after all, banks might be willing to invest in something like this.Ledivin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sounds like it’d be relatively easy to get a loan or investor with that kind of ROI. Seven years is nothing if it’s consistent and safe.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Sell 1x1 foot squares of it in a vending machine at a random gas station in the middle of nowhere.
ksigley@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I would totally buy a gapcha token for one 1x1^2ft of inaccessible land from a vending machine.
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
This is why it’ll sell, people like obscure shit.
x00z@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
With a hidden rent fee.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Imagine you get like 200 of those bought at random across the land, and no more, then you try to do something with the remaining land!
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Chess, except each piece is a bishop of the same color
Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Start a cult
amksenin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
how
Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
Marketing.
But first you need the idea. I’d say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil’s blood.
Just off the top of my head that’s an idea.
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Attract people with the true promise of very cheap, simple, communal living, a shared belief system, and/or a common ideology.
Offer free workshops on useful skills like food storage and survival techniques, meditation, prayer, self-sufficiency, trauma counseling and drug and alcohol rehabilitation
Restrict calories by setting meal times and durations.
Make sure there is enough work so that everyone is busy all the time
Restrict movement by having mandatory meetings, meditation sessions, or chores at particular times throughout the day so nobody has time to go to town.
Erode individual identity with common dress, common food, common hairstyles etc.
Identify and keep track of individual weaknesses (Trauma, parental issues, weight insecurity, financial insecurity, fear of failure, fear of abandonment mental illness), key motivations (Financial stability, seeking to be apart from society, seeking happiness), basic desires (financial security, relationship security, being part of a community, sex)
Make extensive use of seed phrases and formal speech rules so that people censor their own speech. EG People cannot speak to children and vice versa without a parent present (very handy if you take in runaways that have no parents), unmarried men and women may not be alone together except when courting, new members must have a guide/buddy/chaperone/mentor/elder present with them at all times for the duration of their probation.
Maintain division by requiring individuals to report non-conformity by others, make non-reporting of non-conformity a punishable act, and make non-conformity a poorly defined and easily applied term, so that everyone is guilty, and you as the leader get to pick and choose who is punished.
Punishments are gentle tightening of above restrictions - more work, less food, less interpersonal contact, less free time, more proselytizing etc.
Reward extravagantly those who recruit others, using free time, more food, more freedom, sex with other members as a reward.
Reward extravagantly revenue-generating activities, manufacturing, labor, producing food, donating money or assets, or illicit income such as burglary and shoplifting .
Enjoy your cult.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If I knew how I’d already have a cult of my own. I hear being charismatic is a prerequisite
Tronn4@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sex shack
amksenin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’d go to jail probably
gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Who or what are you planning on having sex with?
untorquer@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s why you get your cult followers to give you all their money, so you can afford lawyers, they can’t, and the other followers can be readily coerced into placing social pressure on and dissent. This is about YOU, the works is about YOU, everything us about YOU and it airways has been.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Tell you what not to do. I did the same and built an Rv park. Well so far that been a bust. They only work where they’re lots of people. Also farming is an idea but only for your personal use. Farming for profit is a no win game. Depending on where this is located will decide what you can do with it. Also zoning.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Also you can’t make a profit of 2.5ha of land. If you want to do this for a life you need way more. You also need machines, buildings to store stuff and so on. Do not expect to be able to make it into lifetime farming by investing anything less than a million. Probably more depending on the land prices. Also, as you said, farming is a lot of work with very little money to be made. The only way to be profitable is by either planting special crops, diversifying by doing a lot of different stuff or by simply growing to cut costs by utilising machines etc more. Also, without any prior knowledge, this is doomed to fail.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Take a tupperware container set and test the water supplied to the field for PH value using a pack of litmus papers, then test the four corners and center of your field by scooping up some dirt, adding some water, and testing with litmus paper. Next, drain out the water and let it evaporate and look for signs of crystalization or condensates. Seal some of your soil samples to see if a healthy soil biome blooms in the sample, fungus and such.
A good healthy soil will have a strong biome. It and its water supply should be close to PH 6 to 7 for most tall grass and similar crops. There should be little to no saline in your soil, signs of that might indicate a brine pit forming in the water table near your land.
The most valuable crops are crops that you can process yourself rather than selling to a granary. For examples: milled flour, corn byproducts, alcoholic ingredients, or switchgrass fermented into propionic acid biofuel. The major downside to being your own processor is that you’re also you’re own distributor which is very difficult.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
You should devinetively watch out with planting bamboo. Do not, under no circumstance, plant bamboo that spreads with its roots because that shit might be a nightmare to get rid if afterwards.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes great tips, some crops are difficult to remove with tilling, burning, or winter in which case herbicides would be used which is likely very undesirable.
sfjvvssss@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Do nothing, watch nature claim it back.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Regenerative Agriculture / Permaculture
If you plan to lease out to a farmer, find one that won’t fill it with herbicides and pesticides. And maybe look to only lease part of it while you work to recover other parts.
I’m looking to buy land that needs to be recovered and have the budget that will likely lead me to a place like this that doesn’t have direct road access. Good luck!
jqubed@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You bought a bunch of land with no plan for it??
It looks like it’s been farmed recently. I don’t know what the growing season there is, you might be too late to start this year, but if you can lease it to a farmer for this season that at least has the land be productive while you figure out your longer-term plan. That way you can put plans in place to start work when the growing season is finished.
amksenin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You bought a bunch of land with no plan for it??
It is common in this country to invest in land. I should have invested in US tech but I was young and not well informed
Any thoughts on figuring out longer-term plan?
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Actually, you might have dodged a bullet with those tech stocks.
MadBabs@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You could look into rewilding the land
cattywampas@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
If I had this land, I’d grow food.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
MMM, field lobsters
50_centavos@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Idk the yours or OPs situation but the start up costs of running a farm are pretty high. Not to mention the actual farming work part of it.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
As in subsistence farming or trying to bring food to market? If the former, it will be a hard path, but possible.
If the latter, have you seen what is happening in the current food markets? For produce (quick spoilage) other nations are rejecting our produce either because of tariffs or because of retaliatory tariffs. For commodity grains like corn and soybeans, previous giant consumers like USAID, USDA, and other agencies are being cut or destroyed entirely meaning there will be a glut of production on the market for some time. Couple that with visa restrictions/deportations, the price of labor will increase substantially. Food prices are going to crater for a time because of this, and some farmers will go out of business. Those that survive will increase prices to cover all of the new expenses, but they won’t be earning more profit from their work.
DrainKikoLake@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
OP seems to be in Europe, so I’m not sure how much of your second point applies.
jqubed@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Does that apply in Europe? OP says most European capitals have direct flights, that take 2-4 hours, so that probably puts this somewhere in Europe.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
What’s the legality of that land?
Where I live there’s no way a plot of land is suited for both farming and a Hotel.
If you build something in a place where residential/commercial buildings are not allowed you are in for a lot of troubles.
If the weather provides the safest bet for the most profit would probably be plant some easy trees or some plant that would not need a lot of caring, and just sell the products.
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
These “laws” are just manmade constructs, I only trust the word of god. (And god told me to build a compound and fill it with devotees and guns)
turkelton@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Edible forest
zxqwas@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Does leasing the land pay enough to make it worthwhile? Gives you time to think.
If it’s fertile land you should probably use it, or lease it, to grow food.
Farming is not easy. Until you learnt to be good at it you’ll put in a lot of hours into making not much money after costs have been paid.
Obelix@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Research what you are allowed to do with that land. In my country you are not allowed to simply buy agricultural land and start building stuff on it and that is the case in most civilized countries.
Bosht@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Couple ideas:
- Sit on it. It’ll just passively build value over time
- See if any cell service providers want to setup towers. They provide passive income as well, monthly
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Sit on it.
It’s been three hours… Bored now, can I get up?
abominable_panda@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Did you ever see the movie Holes (2003)?
JASN_DE@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Did you check that you’re actually allowed to build and live there? Depending on where that is (i guess left out on purpose), you can’t simply decide to build a house in a field.
amksenin@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes I can build 250m2 of house here but that would kill land’s future investment potential (organized industrial area expansion is the development play here)
So instead I plan to use tents to host people if I ever do something here
Though, I guess I can build sheds if they are easy/cheap to remove. I don’t know much about construction
captainjaneway@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That might be illegal if it’s not zoned for residential. That’s how it works in the USA.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
You could use it as a camp or festival ground with very little upfront cost, especially if you plant some trees.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
There’s some great ideas in this thread but sadly I think most of them are fairly high risk.
Doing anything in this kind of scope is going to cost a lot of capital. If it goes wrong all that money is gone.
I would lease it to a farmer.
Maybe reserve a corner where you can build up some basic facilities. I’m not sure what’s popular where you are but here in Australia you can find places like this on hipcamp where you can camp for a few dollars a day.
Use your income to build basic facilities over time. Toilets, showers, kitchen, solar.
MomoGajo@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
In the short term leasing to a farmer isn’t a bad idea. It looks like a lot of your tentative plans will take time and money, so a short tern land rental might be a good idea.
libra00@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Looks like a farm, maybe plant something?
Noodle07@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Put potato in the ground, makes more potatos, shit’s crazy
libra00@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Even better, cut potato up and put pieces in ground, makes LOTS more potatoes.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
You have no idea. Non organic planted potato’s have an average yield of 40t/ha. So this field would give you about 100t of potato’s. And trust me, you can’t do this manually and even with machines this takes a shit load of time. Without any experience in farming and without equipment, which is needed (you dont need machines to plant and harvest, because they are waaay to expensive) this is still quite a big investment. Potato’s also drain the soils quite a lot so you need to have a rotation of at least a few years. But what do you do in the years where you dont plant potatos?
answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
according to my calculations if I started planting <n-number> potatos in my farm that would yield = the sum of times of planting (n^n-th) * (n^n-th) potatos = n^2n-th , basically infitity^infinity of potatos in no time
Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
make real life whiterun from skyrim. i saw land for sale as a kid and that was my only plan if i had bought it
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hire one single dude to ask tourists whether they get to the cloud district very often.
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
“I’ll have you know there’s no pusseeee!”
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
“I used to be a tourist like you, till I took an arrow to the knee.”
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
hire a dude to lean on a post 12 hours a day occasionally saying “well met kinsman”
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
I had a family member who owned land in the sticks. He said you can earn a passive income letting a farmer use it. He let a guy bail hay to sell. Meanwhile, sit on it for 20-30 years. The land multiplied in value many times over. Eventually, it got sold to a development firm to build multiple neighborhoods after the nearby city continued to expand in that direction.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it’s only going to be land used for farming.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
At least a wind block on the edges
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Orchard farming, just add more tree