I hope these IDF soldiers wake up. You can’t kill people without killing part of yourself.
Sympathy for their PTSD
Submitted 4 weeks ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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deathbird@mander.xyz 4 weeks ago
4lan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m seeing so many parallels to our false wars in the Middle East. The vast majority of US soldiers who died did so by suicide.
Also netanyahu trying to create more generations of terrorism so he can have forever wars that keep him in absolute control. That’s literally what we did, he is copying us play by play
orcrist@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The violence in that region predates both Iraq wars. Israel has no need to copy the U.S. here. It’s important to remember that the situation is multiple generations of on-again-off-again violence, except now the scale is way up on the killings.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
and if he had refused to do as commanded would he have been shot himself?
orcrist@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
If the army starts shooting its own soldiers, it’s not going to exist for very long. You can read very obscure stories about occasional killings during the Vietnam War, but those are almost always things that happened in the jungle when nobody would ever find out.
If they try that kinda thing in Israel today, it’s not going to be a secret, and all of the other infantry and their family are going to wonder who is next, which in turn would massively reduce support for the Israeli military.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
there was a story of an iraq war soldier killed by his own squad a couple years ago. thats what put the thought in my head
4lan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No he would sit in a jail cell. As a trained soldier.
Essentially a perfectly risk-free environment. But he chose murder instead
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So, I hate to be this guy for Israel. But there are legal ways for this to have happened. I know the first picture in all of our heads is them running over prisoners. But it is a valid tactic to collapse your enemies trenches or building on top of them. The US has been doing that since at least Vietnam. Armored bulldozers are, of course, uniquely pretty good at this tactic. Although it is usually a tank with a bulldozer blade attached to the front.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
She was also a long time ago. Why not use the unarmed American they shot in the head recently?
Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
“Everything squirts out,” he added.
Zaken says he can no longer eat meat, as it reminds him of the gruesome scenes he witnessed from his bulldozer in Gaza
Yeah. This ain’t that.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That logic doesn’t follow. Did you think collapsing a trench means you don’t see anything?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Here is a video of the soldier in the bulldozer with his friend in gaza bragging they destroyed 5000 houses files.catbox.moe/sgmc5b.mp4
The friend already killed himself.
RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They’re gloating about it, absolute monsters.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah that’s not a great visual. But the house was clearly already badly damaged and had explosives in it. This is standard for combat clean up. We can certainly talk about why 5,000 houses were damaged bad enough to need demolition though.
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 weeks ago
I’m sure this guy operates his bulldozer with all of the care and concern for innocent human life as the IDF bombing campaign that by their own reports have killed twice as many civilians as militants.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yup, they get very little benefit of doubt at this point. I’m just pointing out that it’s not 100 percent straight to war crime from this description.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Except we already know that they were doing this.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sympathy for the devil
alleycat@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Link to the original article.