Read this if you own a Juicebox EV charger

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• BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Internet connected devices are a mistake. Not only is there going to be non-existent security updates for the device, it means there is a timer on the life the functions of the device. If a device cannot function offline, you will have a gimped (or completely dead) product soon.

  functions like scheduling a charge will no longer work

  Case and point. Why did the device ever need the internet to run a clock? It didn’t, but because it was ‘smart’, now it can’t operate a basic time function.

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  • Archer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Case in point

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    • pipe01@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Bone apple tea

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  • GroundedGator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is why I prefer “smart” controls for dumb things. If the control gets bricked I can replace it or the thing will still work without it.

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    • GuyDudeman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They say the home chargers will still work. It’s just the commercial chargers that won’t.

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  • pandapoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s all relative. My cheap Chinese spyware SmartLife devices are free to report the hours I turn my lights on back to China as they please, but they sit on a segmented VLAN with per client isolation.

    If they ever EOL’d them, I’ve got more than my money’s worth, and yes, some of them can be flashed, but I’d probably just buy another well established cheap Chinese competitor.

    But I agree, the above is not the use case and situation for every IoT device out there, and there are plenty of devices that I would never consider an internet/SaaS dependent version of e.g. medium to large home appliances.

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  • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Also the internet is the primary attack vector for most devices. I don’t have to worry about someone hacking my devices that just do their job and don’t have internet connectivity.

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Slight correction, internet connected devices without an open firmware are a misstake.

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      ‘Eh, I’d have to argue that even open firmware devices are a mistake unless they’re really standardized and extremely popular, which aren’t things you can necessarily know when its early in its life cycle.

      Open source things either get a cult following, or get that one lone dev that thanklessly keeps it going and then decides to give up and become a sheep farmer… or both.

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• helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This (and 2 broken EVSEs) are why I bought an OpenEVSE 4 years ago. Zero problems since.

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  • lettruthout@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Thank you for posting about OpenEVSE. I’m in the market for an EVSE and was not aware of this option. Did you buy a product or a DIY kit?

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    • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I just bought the assembled kit.

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    • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I got the assembled kit 4 years ago. I highly recommend them.

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• helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  So there will be at least a partail refund right? Of course not.

  This is like selling someone a birthday cake and after they have a few slices you scrape of the remaining frosting and suck out the moisture.

  IMO juicebox should be responsible for 25-50% refunds for taking away the web features, depending on how much more it cost than similar products without the features. The charger it self still work, so I don’t think a 100% refund should be required.

  Alternatively, they can (preferably) release the software under an open source license or sell the service to another company who is forced to match whatever the subscription cost is for at least 7 years.

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• treeofnik@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I think a lot of us saw this coming for a while based on how they were treating the “smart” functionality and apps in general. A year or couple years ago they switched the app software and a bunch of functionality you had access to went away. As long as I can plug the thing in and it charges, I’ll be okay but still…

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• TheD00d@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Consider switching to OpenEVSE :)

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  • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I second this! I have had mine for 4 years. It’s so nice having the ability to swap parts if anything fails. The brains can be swapped out as needed like if someone creates a new controller like one with Ethernet. I just noticed they released an upgraded screen. My wife is gonna hate me if I upgrade the screen. 😁 It integrated with home assistant too with the HACS package from firstofnine.

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• taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Oh. The campus I teach uses juice box. I wonder what’ll happen to them.

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• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Too bad, I kinda dig the name and the asthetic.

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• Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Now I understand why parents give their toddlers juice boxes to calm them down.

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