How is Open Source developed paid?

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Tekkip20@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

Forgive me but this part of the open source and foss confuses me. If you code and release an open source and free piece of software like say, a robust video player such as VLC, how is that dev being paid?

Because in my eyes (I’m not too privy to FOSS ins and outs)

I’m basically getting your software for free of no charge, it IS free as in free beer cos you’re not asking ME to pay it for so who is paying YOU?

Does it come via donations or wealthy corporations like Red Hat and Microsoft pay or fund open sourced projects that is given to the hard working developers of that OSS/FOSS project?

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inlandempire@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Most open source projects will have a donation page / link, so it relies on people feeling compelled to donate because the software provided is useful to them.

Lemmy for example has options for financially supporting its development. Some Lemmy instances also feature a link to a donation page to cover the hosting costs.

Some have an organisation behind it, like Firefox has the Mozilla Foundation to finance it.

The team behind VLC has a “for profit” branch that adapts the video software for companies, allowing them to also finance VLC’s development in addition to donations.

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- gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Some of Lemmy development is/was paid by foundation funding.
  
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- ahal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The Firefox example is actually the reverse, Firefox funds the Mozilla Foundation. This is a case of an open source project successfully monetising through search referrals (mostly from Google).
  
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  - inlandempire@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh wow thanks for the correction, I’ll edit my comment
    
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- EABOD25@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Would “Freelance” be a good word for it?
  
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  - krdo@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think consulting would be a better word
    
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MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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palebluethought@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Like others have mentioned, there are various options (donations/sponsorships/grants) that larger projects will generally have some of, but for smaller projects (99% of what’s out there, by project count if not usage), the answer is simply “they don’t.” It’s done as a hobby, as a resume booster, or with the hope of eventually becoming big enough to hit one of those revenue streams.

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EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I contribute and run some open source projects. Some projects receive sponsorships and contributions, some are backed by companies, a lot are just someone doing it on their own time, very few can actually meaningfully support the people working on them. Personally, I receive no money for mine.

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- tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Likewise, I run/host/contribute to several public projects and typically get $0 unless someone feels like throwing $20 my way. Happens very rarely, though. I feel like most FOSS projects started like this, where the devs are just trying to “scratch thier own itch”.
  
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  - curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Had someone buy me a dinner once
    
    Or maybe they just repurposed the gift card, I don’t know. But I enoyed the dinner all the same!
    
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slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
depends on the project. Some projects are spun out from major corporations. Others are one dude making a thing and it gets used everywhere and taken over by venture capital firms.

Some projects will have sponsorship, there are also government grants they can get, but I would say most comes from regular users doing reoccurring dontations.

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- oce@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Some projects are spun out from major corporations.
  
  This is most of the FOSS projects in data engineering and data science. They come from tech giants or some dudes who just left tech giants to create a FOSS tool with a paid managed version, and those may get bough back by other tech giants later.
  
  Example:
  
  Analytics and AI giant Databricks reportedly paid nearly $2 billion when it acquired Tabular in June, a startup that was only doing $1 million in annual recurring revenue, according to Bloomberg. That’s a pretty outrageous exit multiple, and it was purportedly fueled by a battle between Databricks and Snowflake.
  
  Tabular had over $30 million in funding, backed by Altimeter Capital, Andreessen Horowitz and Zetta Venture Partners, when it was acquired just three years after it was founded. Tabular’s valuation was tied to Apache Iceberg, a popular open source table format that the startup’s founders created while at Netflix. The startup quickly became an expensive pawn in the war between Databricks and Snowflake.https://techcrunch.com/…/databricks-rep…>
  
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thecheddarcheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’d assume it’s mostly donations

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Vinny_93@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
FOSS is free, OSS doesn’t have to be. Very often open source software, of which the commercial fork is being maintained by a company, that company will profit from businesses using the software. Idk about VLC but Moodle, for instance, is open source and updates for it are based on a subscription model.

The license agreement for OSS will often state that you are free to use it in your own home, but if you start commercially using the software, they expect you to pay. Some open source projects can get resold by service providers this way to handle deployment of updates, provide support, et cetera.

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- Faresh@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The f in foss is for free as in libre, not price. And I imagine it is used to avoid touching the topic of open source software vs libre software. So saying you can make money from one and not the other doesn’t make sense.
  
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  - Vinny_93@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    In my experience, the term FOSS as in FLOSS is only (incorrectly, as you pointed out) used for software that is free if charge.
    
    But you are correct, the term says nothing about the pricing, they only say something about the licensing form.
    
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WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ways open source projects get paid for:

people do it as a hobby and don’t get paid

people rely on donations

government funded software projects are usually open source (the work gets paid for because the government thought it would be valuable to have that software)

Sometimes companies have a business model that doesn’t involve selling software, and they don’t really benefit from having that software be proprietary. They may open source their software because it gets other people to use it, and by extension gets people to buy their paid products. For example, there are some free, open source software projects by Nvidia, but you would need to buy one of their graphics cards to take advantage of it.
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PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think usually it’s about costing the competitors money to fuck them rather than financial gain.

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khannie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Our company paid a prominent open source driver writer for prioritisation of some work more than once. All the code was GPL.

I know it’s only one data point but it’s one way.

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ssm@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If your only aspiration for creation and improving the world is making money, you are a waste of a human.

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AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My company hired at least one open source guy. The original code is internal to our company and he’s allowed work time to maintain it

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- radix@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That’s impressive. Is it still licensed under a libre copyleft license? Surely that’s too good to be true.
  
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  - AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, the company does not own the license, theoretically has the same rights as anyone. And the source is replicated to externally
    
    From my perspective, it was really annoying to discover. I’m going through everything with scanners, trying to get tools and languages up to date and mitigate known vulnerabilities, but he did not want to bring his code up to date. I get that the company doesn’t own it, but I’m giving you company time to get your stuff up to date.
    
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SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Loads of donations for one. You ought to donate to some of your favourites too!

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KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Either by salary by hiring an engineer for a company, by issuance of grant, or by issuance of funds from donations via 1099 or similar.

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