If you go back far enough, whales are a type of fish, just like us humans
Dolphins is whales.
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sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Here’s the thing. You said a “dolphin is a whale.”
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies whales, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls dolphins whales. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “whale family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Cetacea, which includes things from porpoises to belugas to orcas.
So your reasoning for calling a dolphin a whale is because random people “call the big ones whales?” Let’s get whale sharks and great whites in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, which means you’d call vaquitas, bottlenose, and other marine mammals whales, too. Which you said you don’t.
It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?
joshcodes@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
So reading up on the evolution of whales for arguments sake has me realising all dolphins and whales are (as mentioned) from the same family.
Your traditional whale fits into “Baleen Whales (Mysticeti)” which have “soft, hair like structures on the upper mouth” and there are 16 species and 3 families.
Meanwhile there are also “Toothed Whales (Odontceti)” with 76 species and 10 families. They are smaller, actively hunt and almost always live in pods.
The most surprising thing I’ve learned is that the Baleen Whales typically have two blow holes…??? Also they do not echolocate but they do sing/chat.
So almost all your traditional large whales fit into the Baleen category and the traditional dolphin fits into the Toothed category. So there are key differences between them, but the overall family is whale.
This is a dumb argument huh
Glytch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Unidan? Is that you?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
A dolphin is a dolphin and a member of the whale family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dolphin is a whale, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the whale family whales, […]. Which you said you don’t.
It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?
You lost me here. OP never said dolphins aren’t dolphins. They also never said other non-dolphin members of the whale family wouldn’t be called whales. Where are you getting that from?
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
…except Dophins definitely are whales. This is not the same as corvids and crows.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Holy shit that was a decade ago.
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Who has ever said that dolphins aren’t whales?
joshcodes@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Dolphins are whales with teeth, a distinction that makes them just slightly not whales
Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Sperm whales? Beaked whales? Also several river dolphins!
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Who said someone said dolphins aren’t whales?
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Have you looked at the meme I’m commenting on?
SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Transphobes, at least once that I saw.
kriz@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Big if true
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Still pretty big compared to a herring…
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
btw, jacksucksatlife has the exact card.
finkrat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Anyone else stupidly bothered by the fact that I used a green reverse? If he’s playing Uno he needs to match the color
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Not if the yellow card which we can’t see the front of is also a reverse card.
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
But then how did he get to play?
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Absolute discrace. I bet he didn’t even draw it fairly from the deck either.
dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Fuck. I’d never noticed that. Fuck you very much, now I can’t unsee it.
MagicShel@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Ruins the whole thing, really.