Submitted 3 months ago by eodur@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world
I’m in the process of degoogling and I’m stuck trying to find a reasonable alternative to Chromecast. It would be great if I could stream music/video from my phone to my TV from apps like RiMusic, Tidal, and NewPipe. Are there any good solutions? Even better if friends and family can use it with minimal additional setup.
There are probably better alternatives, but I have a raspbery pi plugged into my tv and use KDE connect to remote control the mouse and keyboard from my phone
Plasma actually has a UI for smart TVs if you weren’t aware, although I have never used it myself so I’m not sure how good it is.
I’ve heard that the focus is on the ARM versions (so maybe they are much more developed) but I tried the x86_64 version on my HTPC recently and it was super barebones.
In the end I found Gnome with a few extensions to be a better solution for my needs
Nice, I’ll check it out. I’ve been meaning to customize the desktop a bit more but it works well enough for the moment.
If you get a usb remote you can bind the home button to rofi or something similar to make a quickstart menu for apps and websites you use most often.
Yesss fcast looks incredibly promising. Sadly the only app implementing it seems to be GrayJay, I really hope it will catch on more.
Since no proprietary streaming service will ever implement this, I wish Jellyfin did.
I’m also hopeful fcast gets some more love. The ability to mirror my whole android screen to an fcast server would be great they have servers for Mac, Linux, Windows, and Android but not a lot of clients.
Grayjay integration works well I use it instead of casting.
This looks exactly like what I’m looking for!
Oh neat. Hope it works for your needs. Let us know how it goes.
Macast is pretty cool too. Think it uses upnp or something.
will need to check it out. Thank you for the tip
I think a few more details are needed to get you a clear alternative:
In my case after degoogling, I use mainly apple devices besides my windows pc. 2 of my TVs have AirPlay built in, so there’s no issue casting anything. If your TV is rather recent it’s likely to have it too.
The third TV is tricky, it’s an older 4k LG. I have a linux box connected to it and installed UxPlay in it. It only works with AirPlay “mirroring” so you kinda need an app that can treat the TV as a second monitor. Otherwise the mirroring won’t cover the entire TV screen. I’m still assuming apple devices here, but there’s OutPlayer and nPlayer in the appstore that can do this. It does support sound-only casting, so if it’s music you want it should be able to direct cast from your apps.
The second caveat for UxPlay is that it only works with DRM-free content (youtube, self hosted media). For DRM content I haven’t found a nice alternative for the old TV , so I use its built in apps (netflix, amazon prime). Kodi exists, but the plug-ins support for streaming sites isn’t good, often getting stuck to low-res content.
I’m guessing buying an apple tv/fire stick/roku is the only alternative for DRM content casting. I also explored the idea of “degoogling” my unused chromecast 3rd gen, but absolutely nothing exists for this and it just collects dust in a drawer.
I’ve got a handful of Android-based TVs that I’m becoming increasingly irritated with. Google regularly pushes updates that break stuff. I already have Jellyfin and Navidrome running on my network and can play them on the TV without issue. Netflix et al are also no issue, but being able to stream other sources such as YouTube/NewPipe.
I am not a fan of Apple either, so adding to them to the mix is a nonstarter.
The protocol is called DLNA
DLNA is going to be your best bet, but it’s such a deep and convoluted rabbit hole. There’s a lot of ways to configure a setup.
Or use Miracast, AKA WiDi, Smart View, SmartShare if you just want to mirror a screen.
I setup miniDLNA once, many years ago and it just kept working. Downside is that I completely forgot how it’s set up.
Chromecast is fraud. Use DLNA
How so? It seems like chromecast does exactly what it says it does, even if it's a suboptimal solution for not being FOSS.
What is does is stupid. You always want to stream the media, not mirror your screen!
Matchstick looked promising but someone killed it. A kaiostick could be nice though
There’s a litany of them, but the issue more about what apps will connect to them reliably. The support on apps is really what you’re looking for, as a single app can support multiple streaming targets. Since you’re talking about some pretty widely adopted apps, maybe look at an Airplay alternative as well, since there’s also a ton of those, and a lot of them are actively developed.
Can you give some examples 😅
Well, I don’t understand your technical wants or needs, but you can Google or hit GitHub and find dozens pretty easily. Look into what Home Assistant is using these days as an easy starter list maybe. Also worth using Raspberry Pi as an included search term to find projects specifically geared for turning an RPi into a Chromecast or Airplay target.
What is your intended goal, btw?
Your best bet is to just avoid the need altogether. I use an nvidia shield with clipious, smarttube, and jellyfin. There is a qobuz app that is okay and a USB Media Player Pro that is pretty bad. I haven’t tried any apps for subsonic streaming.
I’d bet there is a tidal app, but I think tidal also integrates with Plex?
For when I want to “cast” a random video file, I use VLC on my PC and on my shield to stream to the TV, and it works well enough.
I haven’t found a good solution to have similar functionality as Google cast for other people to use, but none of my guests have ever been upset that it wasn’t available.
I have a Linux PC with Jellyfin hooked to to the TV but i find it awkward to use with a keyboard and trackpad while lying on the couch. It would be great to have a remote like the Chromecast one but I’m not sure if anything like that is available that would work with JF.
I was going to say you could use a smartphone with the Jellyfin app to control it, but it looks to be limited (just the actual launching of videos not play/pause etc).
Jellyfin and self host!
Amazon is working on adding casting capabilities to the Matter framework, but at the moment it’s only implemented in the Echo Show and on Prime video.
MattMckenzy@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
If you’re up for using Jellyfin and have satellite devices, you can check out something I’m working on to achieve this: github.com/MattMckenzy/Homehook
The main branch was compatible with google assistant through IFTTT but I’ve stopped maintaining it in favor of the v2 branch, where HomeHook communicates directly with satellite devices through HomeCast.
Let me know if you have any questions about it, always glad to help!
eodur@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Oh that isn’t quite what I was looking for but I’ve got Home Assistant and Jellyfin already. I’ll have to play with this! Thanks!