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It’s called a federation. Its design is intended to give people options. To provide a diverse network of content that people can navigate as they see fit.
The internet can naturally do a bad job of facilitating good and robust conversations.
Federation is the only cure I’ve seen for social media … where separate but connected and navigable spaces can co-exist, enabling a discourse through contrasting biases and perspectives, for those willing to use the content that way.
Can’t stand a community or instance? Don’t subscribe. Or unsubscribe or block.
Instance defederation is an extreme action and requires extreme justification IMO. It reduces the size of the network and the value of the ecosystem. Especially for lemmy world’s size … it has a responsibility to support the network.
What some loud people find unacceptable is likely interesting to some quiet others.
Differing political “sides” or perspectives isn’t enough. Politics isn’t everything for everyone. Moreover, it’s exactly the domain in which a diverse array of content is most valuable and important … because no one has all the answers!
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 months ago
You can cross off lemmggrad and hexbear. Those are defederated already.
https://lemmy.world/instances
It's just lemmy.ml we have to talk about.
Darkard@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Fucking hell there’s a lot of pedophile instances.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 months ago
I've had a look at it and it's not as bad as it looks. Lot's of websites on that list aren't around anymore. Others are anime or hentai stuff which might be questionable at times. So from reading the list I thought the fediverse is full of nazis, extremists, trolls and loli pictures. But when doing the research it's just a minority. And the blocking works. Those pedos exist, though.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I dig through a bunch and have no idea what you’re talking about… I didn’t see anything.
dch82@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
That’s good, although I do want to crosspost to other instances like .zip
protist@mander.xyz 3 months ago
If .zip is your home instance, why do you care about with whom .world federates?
maegul@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’ll add to hendrik’s sibling post … it seems you’re relatively new to the fediverse. You may want to get a feel for the place before advocating for such wide reaching actions.
I’m all for expressing your feelings on an issue, but I do wonder if your eagerness is a bit premature. I myself “called for” defederation early in my time on the fediverse … and it was dumb of me.
Since then I’ve come to view most arguments around the idea of defederation suspiciously. There’s usually a bit of personal drama or a shallow opinion or people who want to loudly voice opinions without wanting to put work into making this place better. Usually, if defederation is actually needed, the admins will know before you do and it will be obvious.
All that being said … I’d ask you … what do you think federation and decentralisation is for?
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 months ago
I doubt you'll find many instance admins who aren't already aware of this. But that doesn't mean you can't be vocal about what you think should be fixed.
But maybe you should have a quick look at the instance list before posting. As I said 2/3 or your proposal are already done on lots of instances. And lemmy.ml is just difficult. There are still a lot of big/important communities there (and users) which we haven't yet replaced.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The existence of a list of linked, and a list of blocked, implies three, possibly four independent states of “instance relationship”.
Can someone who understands it deeply please explain to me? What is the relationship between a “linked” instance and a “blocked” instance, and how does that relate to “defederated”?
Does federation require active configuration from one instance to another? Or is federated the default relationship when no config data exists?
Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Instance Target gets linked when someone from instance Source subscribes to a community of Target
Defederating = blocking in this context, defederated instances show up in the blocked instance list
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why is this Mastadon instance blocked?
social.mechanizedarmadillo.com
Seems like a random account with nothing controversial.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 months ago
I think you're looking at the wrong list. That page contains both the allowed and the blocked instances. The one you mentioned is allowed.