This change is likened to expanding a CPU from a one-lane road to a multi-lane highway
This analogy just pegged the bullshit meter so hard I almost died of eyeroll.
'One of the wildest Finnish startup says it can speed up any CPU by 100x using a tiny piece of hardware with no recoding
Submitted 4 months ago by neme@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
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xantoxis@lemmy.world 4 months ago
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
You’ve got to be careful with rolling your eyes, because the parallelism of the two eyes means that the eye roll can be twice as powerful ^1
(1) If measured against the silly baseline of a single eyeroll
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Apparently the percentage of people actually understanding what they are doing in the management part of the industry is now too low to filter out even such bullshit.
Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 4 months ago
The TL;DR for the article is that the headline isn't exactly true. At this moment in time their PPU can potentially double a CPU's performance - the 100x claim comes with the caveat of "further software optimisation".
Tbh, I'm sceptical of the caveat. It feels like me telling someone I can only draw a stickman right now, but I could paint the Mona Lisa with some training.
Of course that could happen, but it's not very likely to - so I'll believe it when I see it.
Having said that they're not wrong about CPU bottlenecks and the slowed rate of CPU performance improvements - so a doubling of performance would be huge in this current market.
barsquid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Putting the claim instead of the reality in the headline is journalistic malpractice. 2x for free is still pretty great tho.
barsquid@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Just finished the article, it’s not for free at all. Chips need to be designed to use it. I’m skeptical again. There’s no point IMO. Nobody wants to put the R&D into massively parallel CPUs when they can put that effort into GPUs.
Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
I get that we have to impress shareholders, but why can’t they just be honest and say it doubles CPU performance with the chance of even further improvement with software optimization. Doubling performance of the same hardware is still HUGE.
pop@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I’m just glad there are companies that are trying to optimize current tech rather than just piling over new hardware every damn year with forced planned obsolescence.
Though the claim is absurd, I think double the performance is NEAT.
dustyData@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is new hardware piling. What they claim to do requires reworking manufacturing, is not retroactive with current designs, and demands more hardware components. It is basically a hardware thread scheduler. Cool idea, but it won’t save us from planned obsolescence, if anything it is more incentive for more waste.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Ah, good ol’ magic wishful thinking…
Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why is this bullshit upvoted?
Already the first sentence, they change from the headline “without recoding” to “with further optimization”.
Then the explanation “a companion chip that optimizes processing tasks in real-time”
This is already done at compiler level and internally in any modern CPU for more than a decade.It might be possible to some degree for some specific forms of code, like maybe Java. But generally for the CPU this is bullshit.
rtxn@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Cybercriminals are creaming their jorts at the potential exploits this might open up.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Please, hackers wear cargo shorts and toe shoes sir
MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 months ago
Oof. But yeah. Fair.
I want to go in record that sometimes I just wear sandals with socks.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
⚠ 🚨 Hoax alert! 🚨 ⚠
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
The techradar article is terrible, the techcrunch article is better, the Flow website has some detail.
But overall I have to say I don’t believe them. You can’t just make threads independent if they logically have dependencies. Or just remove cache coherency latency by removing caches.
bitfucker@programming.dev 4 months ago
Can’t have cache latency if there is no cache!
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 months ago
So THIS is what the communists were talking about when they told me about the benefits of transitioning to a cacheless society!
_sideffect@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You can download more ram too!
downhomechunk@midwest.social 4 months ago
Overclockers:
“Give me some liquid nitrogen and I’ll make that 102x.”over_clox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Meh, I just spit on it.
Shadow@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Hmm, so sounds like they’re moving the kernel scheduler down to a hardware layer? Basically just better smp?
Chocrates@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Processors have an execution pipeline, so a single command like mov has some number of actions the CPU takes to execute it. CPU designers already have some magic that allows them to execute these out of order as well as other stuff like pre calculating what they think the next command will probably be.
It’s been a decade since my cpu class so I am butchering that explanation, but I think that is what they are proposing messing with
LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 months ago
That’s accurate.
Its done through multiple algorithms, but the general idea is to schedule calculations as soon as possible, accounting for data hazards to make sure everything is still equivalent to non out of order execution.
There’s also branch prediction which is the same thing kind of except the CPU needs a way to ensure if the prediction was actually correct.
amanda@aggregatet.org 4 months ago
Has anyone been able to find an actual description of what this does? I clicked two layers deep and neither explains the details. It does sound like they’re doing CPU scheduling in the hardware, which is cool and makes some sense, but the descriptions are too vague to explain what the hell this is except “more parallelism goes brrrr” and it’s not clear to me why current GPUs aren’t already that.
Coasting0942@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Others have already laughed at this idea, but on a similar topic:
I know we’ve basically disabled a lot of features that sped up the CPU but introduced security flaws. Is there a way to turn those features back on for an airgapped computer intentionally?
addie@feddit.uk 4 months ago
The kernel option is
mitigations=off, if you want to try adding it to your Grub command line? From the testing I’ve done, provides no benefits whatsoever - no more frames in games, compilation runs no quicker, battery life on a laptop is no better.shundi82@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Haven’t used it in years, but it might still work:
9point6@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Haha okay
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Blackout@kbin.run 4 months ago
probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Gee its like all modern computers already have massively parallel processing devices built in.
mlg@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Startup discovers what a northbridge is
tombruzzo@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I don’t care. Intel promised 5nm 10ghz single core processors by this point and I still want it out of principle
geomela@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Hur Hur Hur… PPU
LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I highly doubt that unless they invented magic.
neme@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Added it
LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I meant tech radar