Submitted 5 months ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/11/ipad-pro-with-m4-chip-geekbench-compared-m3/
On raw performance might, the M4 really does live up to Apple’s promises, should deliver. Single core is up about 20% compared to all M3 chips and more than 40% compared to M2. The generational computational leap from the previous M2 iPad Pro is at least a 42% jump on single-core and multi-core.
RUNNING IPAD OS?? Apple what is happening 😭
For Lemming harder.
I can only think of one thing you could do with this much power … run an LLM
I’m so annoyed they announced this.
I have a slew of raspberry pi’s kicking around, doing various things. I also have a name brand NAS that reportedly lets you run other software, including containerized apps, but their implementation is whack and doesn’t work super well.
I want to get a more powerful machine for use as a replacement server. I’d like to spin up my own LLM tools, use it to with software
like photoprism to auto tag my pictures, or even spin up Frigate on it.
My leading contender had been either a Jetson Orin nano or a system with the core ultra 155h chip. But now I might have to wait until they announce/release M4 Mac minis - which is really annoying because I want instant gratification for my half-baked ideas.
Now you have the time to actually write up a design document and let your half-baked idea become a fully cooked one before you drop a bunch of cash on it
We’ll find out the future of iPadOS in one month! They have raised the price on the pro models, hopefully they have a big ass update readied up or alll the reviewers are gonna say the same thing “great hardware let down by shit software”
They have been saying the same conclusion since the very first iPad, hasn’t deterred Apple yet.
Making the prior iPad “obsolete” Apple nailed it 🤪
I don’t use apple’s stuff but alternatives to X86 could be the future. The one thing they need is compatibility with X86 software otherwise mass adoption is heavily crippled. It doesn’t matter as much for Apple’s stuff since their whole ecosystem is under strict control but for general purpose consumer hardware that compatibility is required first.
Apple already stopped selling x86 devices and even the stuff that is not under their control seems to work fine
You seem to not be using open source software packaged for multiple architectures or which can be built for your binary target. Most people will be just using a browser and an office suite.
Yea, obviously, that’s the case for most people. A lot of people for who a chromebook would be enough would not be effected, yea but for example software that isn’t getting new updates and like all gaming would just not work on other architectures currently.
I have a friend who said on his M2 MacBook, even before the Apple Silicon build of Factorio released, the game ran better in x86 emulation than on his previous machine. And much cooler.
The battery life and thermals that come out of these powerful ARM chips are amazing, and anything that can be multithreaded is going to perform brilliantly on these chips.
Obviously for stuff where thermals and power consumption aren’t as important the gains aren’t as large, but I can’t remember the last time I worked on an actual desktop machine rather than a laptop with or without a docking station.
That heavily depends on what the previous machine was. Like factorio runs on my laptop without taxing the system much more than just idling and on my desktop I can’t even tell it’s running based on performance monitoring. So yea, I’m not sure factorio is a good indicator.
The performances is not inherent to ARM, x86 can definitely catch up to this.
In theory yes if they can handle thermals, but I don’t see that happening.
Now you can load up Facebook 0.0001% faster
If Lenovo was really clever they’d now spend some money on creating a Linux Desktop that is as polished and usable as MacOS and use truly Retina-level displays. I’m ready to ditch Apple like I’ve never been before.
That’s only if you like MacOs. I tried it and ran back to the usability heaven of Kde (and someone was gifted a n apple laptop).
In general, I would love for any OEM to step in and provide similar build quality to a Mac… doesn’t even have to be Lenovo (who IMO are a pale imitation of IBM’s line of laptops).
The Lenovo additions to the Thinkpad lines (like the foldable ones or tablet-hybrids) are pretty horrible, the classic ones are still good (T, P)
The Ultrabook Z carbon or whatever they’re called are also ok for the weight.
I bought a used P51 and love developing on it because using Docker on an OS where it’s natively integrated is a game changer, but at the same time looking at the ugly font rendering on a dim 4k screen with huge 1 inch bezels spoils it again. Developing on a Mac feels less like work because of their attention to design.
Curious who uses this for pro means. With FCP, Logic, Resolve on there now, who would choose an iPad for these?
Great way for a kid to start learning them, I imagine, but I would wager a guess that most pro peeps are using it for illustration and art.
Whoever can afford this can already afford the laptop alternatives. My guess is that this will be a convenient “nice to have” item whenever bringing along a tablet over a laptop feels like less of a hassle.
Yeah will be interesting, because an Air is what I use for that. I need the keyboard….
I have a powerful PC laptop, then a MacBook Air for days at conferences, airplane, etc.
iPad seems useless for me at least. I have a phone.
Accidentally replied in the wrong spot.
I posted more because I’m happy about the chip performance gains. That it’s in an iPad is interesting, but I’m excited for the Mac.
If the leaked score is true, isn’t it beating every cpu in single core performance
In Geekbench, yes. From other reporting I’ve seen the major improvements here are from Scalable Matrix Extensions being on the M4, which Geekbench supports. Real world performance of which would be limited to certain scenarios and require application support for SME.
No, but the metric is performance at that power-draw. And I don’t know that it’s the best there, even. But I’m excited for what it means for the future of my platform (MacOS).
I see a lot of “Apple says” here. I’ll believe it when I see it. And not on their shitty graphs with no numbers and comparing it to 4 year old processors.
luckyeddy@lemm.ee 5 months ago
All this computational power….on iPadOS 😵💫
Altomes@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Right, like they don’t really have many AAA, the main thing holding this back is firmly the OS. I just truly don’t get it
maegul@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Market segregation is worth it for them and the chips will be used in plenty of other hardware anyway, so dumping them in iPads doesn’t hurt, even if it’s mostly just marketing fit the products, nor does it necessitate a product change.
kratoz29@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Perhaps with a more robust OS, such as Linux or macOS the battery and thermals would just not suffice?
I mean, an iPad is basically a larger phone, which I think can get hot enough if pushing it to its limit
Also I don’t think the RAM would be enough for intensive tasks, the device as it is could be pretty good for gaming though, if only the title list wouldn’t be a shit for the most part.
But at the same time, a MacBook Air doesn’t seem much bigger compared to the biggest iPad available.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 months ago
It’s the same reason Macs don’t have touchscreens. If they can both do the same tasks, why would you buy both? And LOTS of people buy both.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I get it if you’re doing photo editing on an iPad. That stuff is still a CPU hog.
That said, the M3 is on an end-of-life manufacturing process, and now that these things are getting updated every 2 years, it just makes sense to put the M3’s successor in this thing. A Pro M2 is going to stick out like a sore thumb in 2 years, and the M3s are going to start to disappear from the line up soon.
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s why they also announced a multi camera synced video editing functionality on the iPad version of Final Cut Pro. In theory it can make use of the CPU with a ton of compute involved in video editing, especially with many source videos. Other than that, though, it’s hard to marry that overpowered hardware with underpowered software.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Maybe they’ll finally announce something interesting at WWDC. I’m ready to be hurt again