Comment on Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging service arrested in France

• grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Illegal content is distributed through snail mail and telephones too, but those are common carriers so they aren’t liable. Why should Telegram be any different?

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  • Sgn@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • shottymcb@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They can open every piece of mail and read the contents.

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    • wick@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes

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• yeahiknow3@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So if I lease a car it’s comparable? Rent a car, commit a crime, boom — rental company is on the hook. Moronic.

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  • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The rental company, on the other hand, is more than willing to turn you in to not be considered liable. Which they probably would be if they impeded an investigation.

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    • yeahiknow3@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Riiiight. And If you use a rental car to create a car bomb I guess the rental company CEO should go to straight to jail.

      If getting rid of privacy is what you think it takes to be safe and civilized, you are not the latter and you don’t deserve the former.

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      • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So… you’re saying your own analogy is disanalogous…

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But, have you noticed that after committing a crime, criminals and felons usually escape… using a car?

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  • Hubi@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is more like arresting the getaway driver, not the car manufacturer.

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    • HarriPotero@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Except the getaway driver is just a cabbie who will drive anyone who gets in. He didn’t know he was part of a heist.

      Would you hold the CEO of lyft responsible if one of their self-driving cars were used in a heist?

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      • Hubi@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If the CEO of Lyft got repeated warnings that this very thing was happening and ignored them willfully, then yes. In the end he has nobody to blame but himself. It’s no different from hosting a file sharing platform without ever vetting the content and wondering why the cops show up one day. The stupidity of going to France knowing that you’re a wanted man in a number of countries is just the cherry on top.

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    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not sure. I was just bored and was making a funny comment.

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• Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not really comparable because the illegal content is hosted and distributed through his servers.

  landlords should be prosecuted for crimes commited by criminals in houses they rented out to the tenants.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If the landlord knows it’s happening and let it happen then yeah, that’s what being complicit is all about

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      how are you meant to know, by impeding on your tenant’s privacy constantly?

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      • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well, telegram has public and private conversations. So in this example, you’d know because they were having trafficking parties kmpn their front yard and the police of multiple countries notified them to let them know. And then you were aware of this issue so you purposely avoided being in numerous countries that want to arrest you. Seems like he knew.

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  • Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean depending on the crimes, yeah. If a child porn ring runs out of your building and you’re alerted to its continued existence, and the police are asking who lives there and you don’t tell them and keep renting to them? Yeah.

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  • communism@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People need houses to live. Taking stuff off your own server doesn’t throw someone out onto the streets and leave them to the elements. Come on lol

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