Let the big tech pay for it.
Comment on US slows plans to retire coal plants because of AI power usage
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Give me an N!
N!
Give me a U!
U!
Give me a C!
C!
Give me an L!
L!
Give me an E!
E!
Give me an A!
A!
Give me an R!
R!
What does that make?
NUCLEAR!
lnxtx@feddit.nl 3 months ago
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Sure!
Wogi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Please don’t let venture capital get it’s fingers around the power grid that can’t possibly end well
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Yes, cut them off from the grid. Let them fend for themselves.
PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
A plant blew up one time due to being poorly mismanaged and an earthquake broke another one. Nothing bad has ever happened in the history of non-nuclear power generate. /s
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
I never said that nothing bad has happened with nuclear power.
Nuclear disasters are local, the ongoibg climate change disaster powered by coal plants (which let our a hell of a lot more radiation than nuclear plants) is global.
I’ll take a local disaster any day over a global disaster
HelloHotel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ofc! Oil gas and coal ONLY burn when placed in a funace. Attempt to light it on fire anywhere else and it will know and refuse catch fire. Its a safety feature. /s
pedz@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Nuclear plants cannot be built fast enough for the ever growing demands of “AI”.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
I am not talking about expantion, I am talking about replacement
diskmaster23@lemmy.one 3 months ago
Those modular small scale reactors won’t take long.
AA5B@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s a great theory, but remember they’re really not in use yet. Well see
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Ok, then let’s boil the planet despite having safe and working alternatives.
Vash63@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The problem isn’t function or safety, it’s cost. It isn’t cost effective to build or renovate a nuclear plant compared to wind or solar. If you have one in good condition, it makes sense to let it run its lifetime, but it makes little sense to build new.
Miaou@jlai.lu 3 months ago
Well it’s probably cheaper to keep coal plants running, if money is the metric we care about.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Standardization and modularity.
Yes, the first plant would be expensive, but the cost would drasticly go down once production gets under way.
Make the plant design modular as well, so if the plant it built next to water, it can use the water to discharge heat, and not need cooling towers.
This isn’t a huge problem.
bobtimus_prime@feddit.org 3 months ago
As long we don’t have a way to deal with the nuclear waste, nuclear is not safe.
And even if we had a way to deal with this, Mining, preprocessing, building the reactor, running the reactor and treating the waste has to be cheaper than renewabls, which I doubt.
Last, but not least, building such powerplants takes years, if not decades, to build, which we do have. At the current rate of emission, we have less than 6 years left before we miss the 1.5°C target[1], which is way to short for any nuclear facility.
[1] www.mcc-berlin.net/en/research/co2-budget.html
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Nuclear waste is a solved problem.
Dig a deep hole, put the nuclear waste in the hole, backfill with clay.
Solved.
Now I understand that different places on earth have less suitable bedrock for this storage, so I voulenteer my home municipality in Sweden as a global storage site, we have stable bedrock, the technical skill and a stable government.
As for the “we don’t have time” bullshit, I have heard that for more than ten years, it is pure bullshit, the best time to build nuclear power was ten years ago, the second best time is today.
You can yell about solar/wind as much as you ever want, but they can’t deal with the baseload as well as nuclear or coal can, coal is buring the entire planet, nuclear MIGHT at worst create a temporary inconvenience where a relatively small area has to be closed to humans. Continued use of coal will cause far, far worse harm.
d4f0@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sure, for nuclear to help not reach the 1.5°C threshold it should have been built decades ago.
For nuclear to help not reach the 2°C threshold it can be built now. But surely in a few decades it will also take too long to build.
Right now there are new fossil fuel plants being built, I think nuclear is a better alternative than that.
kamenlady@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Should i nuclear or should i coal now?
If i coal there will be trouble. And if i nuclear it will be double.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
What?
Coal is far, far, far worse than nuclear, even in terms in radiation.
If we replaced all coal plabts with nuclear power we would hugely reduce the ammount of Co2 and radiation released.