Comment on Elon Musk has another secret child with exec at his brain implant company

• partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But why are the women doing this?

  Child support payments from one of the richest men on the planet probably aren’t small.

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  • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And then we wonder why Andrew Tate has a following lol

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Andrew Tate is also in a Romanian jail right now, if I’m not mistaken.

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      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I feel for the other inmates

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      • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Its a shame Adin Ross didn’t join him. He could probably use the companionship. Also, it keeps Adin’s dumb ass off the internet.

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Please, do not even pretend that a human trafficking serial rapist gives a shit about “the role of fathers in a child’s life”

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does he have to give a shit beyond pretend?

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    • AmidFuror@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The main error here is thinking that because some women are motivated by money that we can generalize that to all women. And then use that to justify general misogyny.

      There are horrible women and horrible men in the world. Prejudging everyone in a class because some members of the class are horrible is wrong.

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      • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, as if plenty of men wouldn’t have a baby with a rich woman if she was offering $100k/mo child support or some shit.

        The numbers work differently if you swap the sexes like that, but the motivations don’t.

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No doubt that is a nuanced and fair take but that's ain't the world we live in.

        People make snap decisions on bad or wrong data all the time.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re never gonna see any of that money.

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• stoneparchment@possumpat.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?

  Let’s list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren’t “women are sluts for clown daddies”:

  • he’s their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
  • he’s just an extremely powerful man and they’re afraid of pissing them off
  • they have insecurities, like the “loser cuck” fallacy that they aren’t valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don’t like him or he treats them badly
  • they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
  • he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don’t feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world

  Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I’m even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It’s not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet

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  • halowpeano@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or they’re shitty tech executives and are shit people, which has nothing to do with gender.

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    • stoneparchment@possumpat.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sure, notice that I included this possibility in the last paragraph.

      Also notice that that possibility doesn’t reinforce the perspective that “women are sluts for clown daddies”

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      • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m a man and I’d probably slut it out a bit for a clown mommie

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  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base

    Feel like it’s worth pointing out that user has over 360 comments, and they created that account 5 days ago.

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    • stoneparchment@possumpat.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a good (and reassuring) observation!

      Still, even if it’s a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don’t call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards “bigotry is acceptable here”…

      I’m gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)

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• nickhammes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why are the women doing it? Power imbalance is probably a big factor.

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  • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You think elon is pressuring all these women to get preggers lol

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    • MondayToFriday@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Partly psychopathic manipulation, partly sleeping around for career advancement. It’s a tale as old as time.

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      • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        REMEMBER: If you have to have sex with you boss for advancement, that doesn’t make you a slut, that makes them a sex-offender.

        “career advancement” is euphemism designed to switch the power dynamic.

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      • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you have to sleep with someone to get a promotion, its not worth it.

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    • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      100%

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What are you basing this on?

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d venture a guess that his primary skill in life and business is pressuring other people so that he gets what he wants.

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• MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why are women doing this? They have a baby with him and they are able to get child support and spousal support for 18 years and maybe for life. This is a nice deal for a few nights of sex with this idiot.

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  • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So women care more about the money than ensuring kid has a father?

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    • snooggums@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some do, most don’t. A lot fall for powerful men with lots of money, and my guess is that Musk throws out advances on as many women as he is able and playing the ofds with and advantage means he will find a lot of the women who desire what he has to offer from money to attention to the experience.

      Nothing is universally true for all women exceot for the fact that they are women.

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    • Hubi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not “women” in general. But there will always be willing idiots somewhere.

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        True, let me fix that

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    • Pheonixdown@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are women who intentionally choose to be a single parent. Like they’re single, they get a sperm donor, have a kid. It’s not some insane thing. Kids should have a supportive and caring environment, whomever raises them. Not every kid with a single caregiver is neglected, nor is every kid with 2 or more caregivers properly cared for.

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    • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Humans run the complete gamut from the good to bad, smart to stupid.

      There will ALWAYS be some people ( this includes women) willing to do anything for a chance at money or even to just rub elbows with the rich, powerful, famous

      Ever heard of groupies? Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with 10k women and has how many kids.

      But to answer your question absolutely.

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think we can all agree on this, this was more of intellectual exercise.

        with bigger point being, is that while dear leader is a cunt, these ladies aint angels or vistims. just getting their cut at the expense of kids having a father.

        their lives, their choices. we really should not even be giving ol' ra anymore attention tbh. but every other day, here we are.

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    • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would definitely raise a bastard for 5 figures every month.

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      • sunzu@kbin.run ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Economics do be like that and we are all subject to needing money.

        I was getting more at society loves to shit on men for walking out on kids but women don't get grief for setting up a family without a father...

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  • BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You don’t get spousal support because someone was a sperms donor to you or had a short term affair with you. That’s not how spousal support works.

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    that and they wont get fired from their job

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• Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But why are the women doing this?

  Because of the implication.

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• Juice@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What I have thanks to money, what i pay for, i.e, what money can buy, that is what I, the possessor of the money, am myself. My power is as great as the power of money. The properties of money are my- (its owner’s)- properties and faculties. Thus what I am and what I am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy myself the most beautiful women. Consequently, I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness, its power of repulsion, is annulled by money. As an individual I am lame, but money can create twenty four feet for me; so I am not lame; I am wicked, dishonest man without conscience or intellect, but money is honored and so also is its possessor. Money is the highest good and so its possessor is good. Money relieves me of the trouble of being dishonest, so I am presumed to be honest. I may have no intellect, but money is the true mind of all things and so how should its possessor have no intellect? Morever he can buy himself intellectuals, and is not the man who has power over intellectuals not more of [an] intellectual than they?

  –Marx, 1844 Manuscripts

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