Car infotainment systems have always been outdated.
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redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 months ago
It’s sad that you can’t replace the infotainment unit in a new car with an aftermarket unit anymore. I imagine 10 years from now we’ll have a fleet of cars with outdated infotainment systems that can’t connect with whatever future version of bluetooth/carplay/android auto anymore. Imagine driving cars with giant but useless infotainment screens that can’t do anything but playing mp3 off a USB stick because its outdated system can’t connect to your new phone.
XTL@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t have to imagine, because I refuse to buy such type of car.
girthero@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What happens when all new cars do this and the older used cars dry up? We need laws to prevent this, but i just don’t feel like that’s going to happen unless China is the one doing the data collection.
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Let’s start our own company!
Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As long as it can play tapes, I’m okay. Still using a tape adapter to connect my mp3 player :)
skulblaka@startrek.website 6 months ago
Haven’t seen a new car that can play tapes in nearly 20 years. Got bad news, boss.
Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, I hear you. I’ll settle for an aux port when I get a new car…
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I got bad news for you, boss…
tal@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I replaced my car’s stereo with one that had an auxiliary 1/8" stereo jack.
Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Aux port is precisely what I’d look for when getting a new car. Even though by the time I do, perhaps my last Sansa Clip mp3 player will be dead and I’d get a new model with Bluetooth.
eldavi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
useless infotainment screens that can’t do anything but playing mp3 off a USB stick
i had a similar thought a while ago and it feels like we’re regressing back to the 90’s
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I liked my recently departed 2012 chrysler infotainment system quite a bit. The sirius/xm radio kept 50 favorite artist and 50 favorite song alerts, had 300gb of storage for mp3s and the DVD system with headphones for the kiddos while we could listen to something else. No newer car I’ve driven, borrowed, or owned had the favorite alerts, and I’m going to miss the hell out of that feature.
Oh, it did have an aux jack and USB input as well. It was the cat’s ass. For a grocery-go-getter, it rocked
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, it was almost a rite of passage in my teen years - getting a decade-old used car and immediately replacing the crap factory system with some overmarketed, overpriced, but really cool kit. Of course nowadays the factory systems are better sounding at least, but you’re spot on regarding the out dating of software and protocols.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yup, sadly you just have to replace the entire car. You certainly can’t attach an entirely new system with speakers and everything to any surface inside the car, just impossible.
I do agree that it’s not good, but it’s also going to be far less of an issue than you think.
Malfeasant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s even worse when you have a new-ish car that can handle any size USB stick, but will only load the first 8000 files it sees…
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Who wants to buy / drive a 10 yo car though…
BorgDrone@lemmy.one 6 months ago
LOLWUT, I only buy cars that old or older. Why would I spend an absolute fortune on a new-ish car that I barely use anyway when I can get a perfectly reliable older car fir a fraction of the price?
MrStetson@suppo.fi 6 months ago
And if you want connectivity or infotainment you can just install an aftermarket system, still not anywhere as near invasive as new cars integrated ones
eldavi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
i’ve learned the hard way that the aftermarket makers have learned that planned obsolescence makes them more $$$ and going for similarly aged infotainment systems work longer than many of the new stuff
i’ve learned the hard way that the aftermarket makers have learned that planned obsolescence makes them more $$$ and going for similarly aged infotainment systems work longer than many of the new stuff
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Have you seen a car lately? Whist I’m sure it could be taken out (leaving a raggedy, jagged, odd-shaped hole in the dash…) you’d lose half the functionality of the car with it. These aren’t the single or even 1.5 DIN chassis of yesteryear, and I doubt Crutchfield has a conversion kit that’s going to replace the dash elements, backup camera, steering wheel controls, climate control, vehicle information center, and, for some bizzarro-world reason, the instrument cluster setup options.
I really can’t stand the modern "everything’s gotta have a big-ass tablet interface with no tactile landmarks. Particularly when I’m hurtling down a narrow corridor in a 1.5 ton metal box and trying to avoid hundreds of other idiots doing the same.
Bring back buttons!
0x0@programming.dev 6 months ago
Who wants to buy / drive a 10 yo car though…
I do. Less built-in obsolescence, let spyware, less vendor lock-in. More durability. Ain’t ditching my '97 Fiat anytime soon.
eldavi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
add to that list better gas mileage than most new cars of the same type and i feel the same way bout my '08 ranger. i’ve had to upgrade the infotainment system 3x already because of the planned obsolescence built into them.
Classy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
My '14 RAV4 is amazing. Gimme CD player or give me death!
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Dude im driving a 33 year old car as my daily. Sub 100 thousand miles and gets better mileage than quite a few modern cars, gotta love government fleet cars. Anyways take your classist shit and shove it, just cause you can and your ilk can buy a new car every other year doesn’t mean most people can, will, or want to.
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Buying is the first mistake. I’ve never done it, I don’t know anyone who has. Leasing is the way. A depreciating asset like a car is the perfect thing to lease.
jimbolauski@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Leasing is you paying the estimated depreciation of the lease period. The 1st 3 years is when a car depreciates the fastest and you have nothing to show for it.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Depreciation is a myth. A car is a tool not an investment. And if depreciation is a real worry for normal people then why do houses not depreciate? They don’t last forever. In fact on average they only last 50 years. But their prices never go down. Not until they get condemned. Why doesn’t the price on a 5 year old car go up instead of down? It’s got 10 more years in it easily and it’s proven not to be a lemon.
But you know what the real insanity is? Paying 400 dollars a month for years for a car with extra restrictions and then having to turn it in or pay even more to own it. Subscription cars need a lot more consideration, like full warranty, maintenance, and insurance for the entire lease period. Upgrade deals at the end. Because the way it is now you’re just giving shit up to keep paying a corporation.
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Coming from someone who sold cars via a dealership (sorry): leasing is a perfect way to get fucked in the ass every day of the year, and twice on renewal day. Yes, it is a titled asset. Yes, it has a depreciating value. BUT - the only way leasing makes financial sense is: 1) you can expense the lease payment to a self-owned business (and it needs to be a pretty big percentage), or 2) accept that you are paying a gobsmackingly large amount of money to eat the absolute shit out of the depreciation you’re seeking to avoid, only to do it again in 3 years, for the ability to drive that new car off the lot on the regular.
TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 months ago
"Americans are keeping their vehicles longer than ever. According to new data from S&P Global Mobility, the average age of cars and light trucks on U.S. roads is a record 12.5 years this year. That's up three months over the 2022 analysis.May 18, 2023"
eldavi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
and here i was thinking that i was ahead of the curb with my 16 year old car because it gets better gas mileage than most new cars of the same type.
irreticent@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Ahead of the *curve…
laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Good troll.
Emerald@lemmy.world 6 months ago
i’d rather that then spyware
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Playing MP3’s off of a USB stick is literally all I do with my car’s stereo, and in fact all I want it to do.
eldavi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
i like the police warnings and the apps that automatically look for a better route in real time when there’s traffic; which means i’ll be keeping my already 16 year old car until i die or parts run out, i guess