I have a 14 year old gigabyte motherboard in my older computer. When I first got it I didn’t know what I was doing and plugged the wrong thing in somewhere and blew up a component on it. As long as I don’t use that slot it chugs along just fine. I wish companies would just keep making things that last I’d gladly pay a fairly steep premium for that. Instead it seems every company that gets known for making good stuff decides to shit all over themselves
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just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This video kind of misses the mark on delivering the points of the title, but can give the simplest explanation of the community gripes:
- ASUS is having quality control issues, or deliberately skimping to pad profits
- They are rebranding lesser quality components with the higher quality ROG brand, and pricing it as such
- They are unilaterally voiding warranties when users try to RMA or return said hardware
Gigabyte (remember them?) did this same slow to enshittification about 10 years ago. The issue pretty much boils down to a company producing to many different types of things, instead of staying good at the things they do well, and the community has noticed and is calling for boycotts. This will no doubt put them on defensive for years to come, and affect their overall standing in the larger community until they correct course.
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Honestly, in your case, it could just be more about who makes what components can withstand X amount of punishment and keep the electrons flowing through so other things keep working 😂
Agreed on your point though. Cheap shit needs to stop.
Bipta@kbin.social 6 months ago
They also reject advance RMAs. How nice to be without a system for weeks.
brick@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’ve had good luck recently with Gigabyte. I know it’s circumstantial but my hope is that they are recovering.
NOPper@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Anecdotal like the rest of the posts here, but I recently built a new rig for gaming/lab testing and used a Gigabyte board for the first time in a decade after seeing good reviews and a solid sale price.
About 3 weeks after setting everything up it just crapped out. Would reboot seconds after you pressed power. Checked and verified absolutely every other part, no luck. Tried to contact support, got the runaround for a few days until I was directed to a site to submit an RMA request.
That was a month ago, zero movement still. About 4 days into it I bought an identical part of Amazon and “traded” em. I’m usually pretty ethical about that kind of thing but this was ridiculous and I needed the PC working ASAP.
Who’s decent anymore? I always used to go with MSI.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They seem to be, but it’s been for a short time. Let’s see if they keep it going.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 months ago
Looks like big companies buying everything has unexpected downsides too (aside the known downsides).
just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Who ever saw this ever in history before now, or ever predicted it?
Thanks your crazy thoughts and wants for things to be good for consumers SOMEWHERE ELSE!
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 months ago
- They are rebranding lesser quality components with the higher quality ROG brand, and pricing it as such
Meaning you could sue them as fraudulent?
bastion@feddit.nl 6 months ago
No. The ROG brand is ASUS’s brand in the first place.
Like, anyone could be like “this is my normal quiche, and this one here is my MuMu quiche.”
Then, once everybody’s buying MuMu, start using the normal recipe for MuMu. It’s not illegal, but at first people think they just got an Ok MuMu, then they start realizing it just sucks now. Hard for the company to recover from that.
But voiding and not honoring warranties?
Andrenikous@lemm.ee 6 months ago
That’s when you introduce the PuPu quiche that uses the original MuMu recipe and start the process all over.
bastion@feddit.nl 6 months ago
Yeah. Companies like that are bridges I burn and never look back to.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sure do! Both my board and the board in my wife’s computer are Gigabyte. So’s my video card. The only issue I’ve ever had with their stuff has been a bad stick of ram a few years ago, which they exchanged without argument.
Brands in this sphere I definitely have had trouble with: MSI, Razer – so many problems with Razer – and ASUS.
Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah so the thing with PC parts suppliers is that every brand is going to have people who have experienced problems with their stuff.
Gigabyte I’ve never had a problem with, but yeah during the pandemic their power supplies were fucking exploding so yeah that’s a problem.
Asus I’ve never had a problem with, but yeah their boards on both sides have been setting voltages and power limits very aggressively, killing AM5 CPUs catastrophically, potentially causing instability on higher end Intel chips as well it seems. That’s a problem.
Etc etc etc
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’ve had problems with Logitech. They still make good peripherals, but it’s more luck of the draw for me recently, so QC may be getting cut.
TigrisMorte@kbin.social 6 months ago
QC??? Hadn't you heard that the end user is the new totally free Beta Tester? But don't worry, they'll solve the resulting support issues with AI.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I hate how true this is…
warm@kbin.earth 6 months ago
People are trained to buy any old trash that is marketed to them without any critical thinking, it's why everything is turning out broken like this.
metaStatic@kbin.social 6 months ago
I keep hearing this and wonder if I should buy bulk mice before they come preinstalled with malware or something because they last decades so voting with your wallet doesn't really work.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Maybe. Or just switch to whatever the good mouse brand is at the time. I’m rocking a Microsoft Intellimouse Pro (wired) on my desktop, which I really like. On my work laptop, I have a Logitech MX Master 3 at work (had lots of issues with the thumb button in the past), and a Logitech Triathlon (no issues).
My wife had a couple of the g305s die on her within a year, so I switched her to a Razer Deathaddr Mini, which has been good for over a year now.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What are the problems with Razer? I’ve only used their mice, so I honestly don’t even know what else they make
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Keyboards, headphones, laptops, a handheld Steam Deck imitator, and various other RGB gamer shit. All of it is trash. Their business model nowadays seems to revolve entirely around upselling Aliexpress quality Chinese garbage at premium prices and then methodically denying every single warranty claim for defective and DOA product using spurious excuses. Oh, and their driver software is crap. And their products are consistently behind even Logitech on the features you get for the price.
Through no particular intentional means, I am now a Logitech convert. For mice and keyboards, their stuff has always been consistently reliable for me, their “G” series driver software is significantly less irritating than Razer Synapse, and most of their stuff is cheaper as well.
I think in my lifetime I’ve trashed four Razer keyboards, at least as many mice, and two pairs of headphones. All of these died early deaths – within weeks, sometimes a couple of months at the outside. Every time I tell myself this time will be different. It never is. I don’t buy their shit anymore, and I don’t recommend anyone else do, either.
catloaf@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I don’t remember Razer ever not being like that. Was it?
warm@kbin.earth 6 months ago
Can just Onboard Memory Manager too for Logitech mice, don't even need that G hub garbage.
EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I bought the $120 Razer Wolverine Xbox controller after MS shrunk the official controller for the Series S/X and it was a piece of shit. Replaced it with a $45 gamesir (Chinese brand) with hall effect triggers and sticks that I’ve had for two years now with no issues and no drift, a first for any xbox controller I’ve ever had. Razer sucks.
tyler@programming.dev 6 months ago
I mean their mice are terrible too. I went through three of their mice in two years back in like 2016. Been using a Logitech g2 whatever their most famous one is since then and it’s not had a single problem. So much so that I bought two more for my other computer and my wife.
stufkes@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As someone with small hands, Razer is the only mouse I can use. All the beloved Logitech models are just too big. I’ve been using Razer mice for more than a decade. Only had a problem with one. I’d like some competition and alternatives, but the gaming market (side buttons) is for large hands. Which sucks, because people with large hands can also prefer that claw-grip and want smaller mice as well.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve been using the same DeathAdder for like 10 years 😅 what are you doing to these poor mice
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Tried to RMA a motherboard with Gigabyte and they will find any excuse to void the warranty.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I’m also running a Gigabyte high-end right now and I’ve got absolutely no complaints. I really enjoy the BIOS/UEFI menu.
gunpachi@lemmings.world 6 months ago
My msi motherboard randomly erases boot entries, I have to keep the computer on for a few minutes and reboot so that my other boot entry appears.
It maybe a problem with the m.2 slot, but it has been the case ever since I bought the motherboard.
Anyways I’m gonna stick to a different manufacturer for my motherboard if I’m building a new PC.