I mean, you can use that approach to denigrate pretty much any activity people spend time on.
Comment on TikTok's CEO is feeling the pressure and users are freaking out
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Users are freaking out
Oh noo how will I manage without my daily bullshit videos mixed with ads
cyd@lemmy.world 2 months ago
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You either never used Tiktok, or you spent too much time staring at the shit videos and that ended up as your feed.
Personally, I get gardening tips, legal analysis of the trump trials, and stand up comedy. It’s great.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I get that on YouTube. (Legal Eagle, Leja etc) Just a bit less CCP manipulation. Not that there aren’t issues with YouTube. Just less than TicTok.
ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 2 months ago
YouTube shorts recommendations suck.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I just want to not see them. I dont watch shorts and I never will. Youtube can go fuck itself because I fucking refuse to watch anything in fucking portrait mode let alone narrowed down in timescale to roughly fuck all.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have trouble with YouTube. It never recommends good short form content. If I could crack that, I probably wouldn’t Tiktok.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s probably fair enough. I don’t watch shorts on any site anywhere. I tend to opt for the 20 minute 30 minute or longer videos. Sitting and working on things when I get home.
AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This, basically. Google took YouTube and made its algorithm push more long form content for the purpose of generating revenue from ads. Not saying TikTok doesn’t have ads in my feed but at least I can skip literally all of them.
whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
You are brainwashed lol
Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I concede. Can’t argue with facts like that. You’d have to be brainwashed to want to be spied on by one less entity. Oh wait my mistake. You have no facts. You’re just expressing a baseless useless opinion that isn’t worth shit. Have a nice day :-)
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I only saw some videos on other’s phones.
Also I started using newpipe for youtube exactly because I don’t want an algorithm learning what I’m interested in. No way in hell I do it for tiktok.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If they banned lemmy and reddit you would be freaking out too. The difference is many people run their businesses on tik tok. Your making fun of people who are losing their livelihood.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I would love it if the government banned Reddit.
Lemmy I could live without. If any users are making their livelihoods on Lemmy or Reddit, they should find something more productive to do.
stembolts@programming.dev 2 months ago
I would love it if the government banned Reddit.
Lemmy I could live without. If any users are making their livelihoods on Lemmy or Reddit, they should find something more productive to do.
by Stovetop@lemmy.world
I nominate this for the least aware comment on lemmy. We truly have a gem here. “If someone is making their living in a way I don’t understand, they should get a real job. After all, it doesn’t affect me, so it must be fine.”
Truly well-spoken, just look at all of the many high-paying jobs available to people of all skill levels, I mean, it’s not enough that an entire generation needs to hustle and convert every waking moment into opportunities to generate capital… but also please do it in a way that Stovetop understands and supports. Otherwise, it’s not “productive”, whatever high-minded values that meaningless phrase is supposed to represent. Clueless.
Null empathy, null emotional intelligence, null consideration. Truly a masterpiece.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What sort of living do you think users are eking out on Reddit or Lemmy?
Social media commerce is all scams and influencers. There are much more productive things people could do to contribute to the betterment of society without trying to capitalize the brain space of gullible and vulnerable people.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
More productive? Dog they are small businesses that are using tik tok as a store front. Like how people run business through Facebook. What your saying is “fuck these people they should just go work a soul crushing job at a big corporation like me”
Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Didn’t know scamming people was such a nice business.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nah. Lemmy is a software. Reddit is an entity. They could try to ban specific Lemmy servers. They’ve tried to go after torrent tracker sites with little to no success. This wouldn’t be any different.
I think it’s illuminating and hilarious that they’re actually going through with this though. I’ve long made the statement that capitalists and Leninist are kissing cousins on all the worst possible fronts. And here’s another data point.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol wut? I don’t think you know what “leninist” means.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s what they claim to be and what they are. What they claim to be, is a transitional centralized system of government aimed at jump starting communism. What they are is that without a mechanism or plan to transition. Ending up in EVERY SINGLE GROUP that has tried devolving into an authoritarian suppressive system. Benefitting largely those at the top.
The Party heads in Moscow benefited far more than the average citizen of the Soviet Union. Nearly every modern Russian oligarch has a direct line that can be drawn back to former party leadership. Xi Jinping does not live in government block housing like a regular citizen. Nor do any of the families of top party members. And should a Chinese citizen complain. They will be brutally ostracized and excluded from society at best. Jailed for life or slaughtered if they’re not so lucky. Capitalists salivate about being able to do that with impunity. They still do it. Just not with impunity yet.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Well, I’m freaking out a bit despite hating TikTok and believing it’s harmful to the average user. I don’t believe in censorship, and I think banning an app like this is a form of censorship.
That said, even if Lemmy and Reddit were banned, I would probably react similarly. I don’t need Reddit or Lemmy and can do without, but I disagree very much with the censorship.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
How do you run a business on TikTok?
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You use it to advertise and show off your items without having a actual shop. Tik Tok also has a shop you can buy from and you can list your items on there.
The closest thing I can think of that’s similar to it would be Etsy but instead of having just pics of your products you can have short videos of it.
mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They provide a shop front interface called TikTok Shop. It’s something Meta has been wanting to do for awhile in WhatsApp.
QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
no would just switch to 4chan lol
Killing_Spark@feddit.de 2 months ago
I loathe tiktok but if someone had banned Reddit while I was still using it I would have been hella mad. On the other hand it would have been “How will I manage without unhinged shitposts mixed with ads” from the outside
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Eh, I was halfway out the door for years at Reddit, I just needed a push. A ban would’ve worked the same as Reddit’s API change.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Either TikTok will win in court and overrun the law (possible), be sold (unlikely) or shut down (likely).
Multiple competitors will appear in the meantime hoping to get the displaced activity. TikTok is hugely profitable and a dominant replacement in the US would make a lot of money. This will be seen as an opportunity to make a lot of money for the winner.
I can see Meta trying to make a TikTok like clone, Google trying to leverage YouTube shorts, and Elon Musk trying to revive Vine at Twitter, plus lots of startups vying to win the audience.
The deadline is after the US election - this could also all be political grandstanding and the politicians expectation might be that the law won’t stand up in court anyway.
match@pawb.social 2 months ago
TikTok has hundreds of millions of users outside the US, they may just pull out [and then US users will VPN to use it like we’re fucking Iran]
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
VPNs aren’t that hard, but I feel like you overestimate the technical literacy of the general public in the US.
Buttons@programming.dev 2 months ago
All the public will have to do is type “tiktok.com” in their browser and their computer will connect to directly to servers in China.
Then our politicians will start discussing a national firewall. We’ll show that we’re better than China by doing the same things China would do (/s).
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If you can use tik tok you can use a VPN. I click my VPN to start it and it auto connects. You think tapping 1 button on your phone is too hard for people who tap one button on their phone to open tik tok?
small44@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Doesn’t the bill include fines for using tiktok with a vpn?
Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 2 months ago
unless the bill has changed since the last time I read it, there were fines for hosting the service in US datacenters, and fines for companies allowing US data to exist in non-us datacenters. I don’t think you could interpret the bill as imposing a civil penalty to a user using a vpn and accessing it.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not that I saw.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
For real.
Like a dozen social media apps already have reals or shorts or some shit that’s basically tiktok. They’re all shitty and invasive, but so is tiktok.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Having used all three major ones, TikTok’s algorithm is head and shoulders above theirs.
whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The algorithms for all those sites are way worse tho, I get much less variety of content, and much less news/politics content that interests me. Frequently those feeds area few months behind. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
unphazed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I actually get pretty good info from TT. Lawyer insight on Trump trials, video quotes from politicians, summaries of new laws, science summaries for dummies that don’t have physics degrees, etc.
unphazed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Then again, the algorithm knows I skip a lot of dumb shit… cept the funny cat videos.
yamanii@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You are right, they should ban lemmy too since it’s used for propaganda by anticapitalists! /s
Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 months ago
FreeFacts@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think it’s ironic this is posted here on Lemmy, which is what it is today mainly thanks to users of another service freaking out over how they will manage without their API access to bullshit aggregated content mixed with astroturfing.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Most of the people who used the 3rd party apps weren’t people who just doom scrolled shit that was fed to them. Most of them had all the default shit blocked or unsubed. It was all niche stuff the majority was subed to that had very little ad revenue for reddit. It’s why the protests didn’t really work, reddit didn’t give a shit about the million or so people who went with niche subs using 3rd party apps.
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And your evidence for this is?
Almrond@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hi, I contribute to a number of projects that require incredibly specific information to facilitate (GPGPU kernel optimizations and unit tests for BLAS) and I use Reddit to collaborate with other engineers to solve issues like doing calculus on Lie groups resulting in a divide by zero because some non-zero groups multiplying to zero in the middle of the calculation. The best engineers and mathematicians I know moved here, so I moved with them to continue the dissemination of these principles.
gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol I feel so called out
TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Reddit and TikTok are incredibly different. And most of us that came over here from Reddit were there and we all saw the quality of Reddit going downhill for a long time. And when Reddit decided to try to be more like a TikTok style company, we all bailed.
So it’s not that ironic. We all willingly left when a company made one more decision screwing us over. These people are clawing at their phones to stay on an app.