Theoretically, if you had such technology, maybe you could use it to rehabilitate instead of punish. Being able to undergo months or years of therapy in a matter of hours could be extremely beneficial.
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nifty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation. Civilization should move towards rehabilitation instead of punishment as the idea is that you want to integrate someone back into society. I am not sure inducing trauma and mental damage is conducive to rehabilitation.
Carlo@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
braxy29@lemmy.world 2 months ago
i’m not sure how this could really work. good therapy requires the person of the therapist, and i think it additionally takes place within the context of a client’s living. are there therapists willing to give up subjective years over and over and over? how does the client try new things, gain understanding without the feedback of their life between sessions? also - therapists seek information and process their work with clients between sessions.
on top of all this, i’m not yet convinced this would be psychologically healthy for either.
Carlo@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I think that the therapist(s) in this case would have to be AI. The person could be in their own little simulation, experiencing a reality tailored to addressing whatever psychological problems they might have. It’s all science fiction, anyhow. There’s no theoretical, let alone practical basis for this technology afaik.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is though, it’s called time hallucinations and it fucking sucks when you’re sober. I occasionally get them. It’s not like everything is slow motion it’s more like you’re bored and this meeting is taking forever, but exaggerated and it takes normal activities and makes them that kind of boring.
kiagam@lemmy.world 2 months ago
if someone can actually get new information under something like this, why would we use it in a prison instead of putting people to study the whole of human knowledge and create demi-god wizards?
Carlo@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I mean, setting aside the danger inherent in creating demi-god wizards, there’s no reason they couldn’t do both.
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So I was on a jury pool in December.
After the attorneys for both sides finished their dog and pony show, the judge himself made each of us answer the following question:
What is the purpose of criminal incarceration?
A - Punishment
B - Deterrence
C - Rehabilitation
After all seventy five of us had answered, all of us who responded with anything other than punishment were dismissed. Even those who answered a combination of the choices. Nope. Punishment was the only correct answer.
To my amusement, this barely left enough people available to fill the jury box.
I followed the case. Guy robbed a convenience store. No death. No injury. Got fifty nine years.
nifty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s just emblematic of a broken justice system. We have to examine what is “justice” for any one case individually, and sometimes punishment may make sense, but even then its severity is determined by humane and ethical considerations. Justice systems can be reformed, the will to do so must be there—even if that means protesting till an objective is achieved.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation.
Its counter to our understanding of entropy. Brains simply don’t work like this.
nifty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Can you elaborate?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…/071211233934.htm
Your memory is imperfect. But your actual capacity to perceive time is still limited by the facilities you use for that prescription.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 months ago
One experimental result does not define the entire domain of consciousness.
You are essentially making a statement of the form “X does not and cannot exist”, which is always a logical fallacy.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s not complete horseshit. The application might be, but the idea isn’t.
I remember a Slavoj Zizek anecdote about it.
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Technology like this could actually be used to help the rehabilitation process by dilating time, and allowing the offender to be rehabilitated without actually wasting much of their actual life.
It would most likely be used for harsh punishment in this universe, but its nice to imagine living in a better one, sometimes.
XM34@feddit.de 2 months ago
I’m like 99% sure it would just make the time feel longer without any benefit of consciousness. Kind of like certain drugs make everything feel like it’s slow motion, but you still don’t get superhuman reflexes from them.
BluesF@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think you’re exactly right. I’m not in any way qualified to make this statement but, if I’m right, you can’t just make the brain “go faster” and get more useful time without time actually passing. Processes need to happen in the brain for thoughts to occur, and you’d have to somehow speed those up… I mean there are chemical reactions happening in your nerve endings, how are those going to speed up? Especially by a factor of >1000 as implied by the OOP!
intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I disagree. I’ve had experiences far longer than their real life counterparts in dreams.
Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It sucks that it would never be used for speed rehab and instead for eternal torture.
dojan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t think so. It probably just screws with the perception of time, I doubt it actually speeds anything up. If it did, we’d be able to use it for way more things than punishment, like for example, doing a deep delve into a subject in a matter of hours.