Comment on The United States of America, but for Trans People

xpinchx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• brian@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  they’re really not, slc has a pretty progressive community but it’s in direct opposition to the mormons. they’re officially accepting of gay people, but as long as they don’t do anything gay. they aren’t ok with trans people who transition at all.

  utah also recently passed bathroom laws for all govt controlled buildings and schools and there are ones for colleges in the works.

  generally mormons will be nice and accepting if they think they can convert you, but that’s about as far as it goes

  advocate.com/…/mormon-leader-lgbtq-advocacy-comes… advocate.com/…/mormon-leader-gender-assigned-birt…

  sltrib.com/…/utah-transgender-bathroom-ban-goes/

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• Neato@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  www.churchofjesuschrist.org/…/understanding?lang=…

  “Church leaders counsel against elective medical or surgical intervention for the purpose of attempting to transition to the opposite gender of a person’s birth sex (“sex reassignment”). Leaders advise that taking these actions will be cause for Church membership restrictions.

  Leaders also counsel against social transitioning. A social transition includes changing dress or grooming, or changing a name or pronouns, to present oneself as other than his or her birth sex. Leaders advise that those who socially transition will experience some Church membership restrictions for the duration of this transition.

  This reminds me very much of the “hate the sin, not the sinner” that never actually happened.

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• ivanafterall@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, no, no, no, no. I moved to Utah five years ago and this is absolutely not the case and I'm not even LGBTQ. A couple of vignettes:

  Exhibit A.

  I'm not sure I need another exhibit, but I have them.

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• oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Mormons tend to be nice … to your face. As soon as you leave they’re likely to act like you’d expect followers of an extremely socially conservative, regressive, patriarchal religion would.

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  • BaldProphet@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nothing about the religion's teachings about gender, sexuality, and sin support mistreatment of people who believe or act differently. The broad strokes your applying to the entire religion is exactly the same as saying that all Muslims are violent terrorists just because of the actions of an extremist few.

    In short, it's bigotry.

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    • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, I thought it was because I’m familiar with LDS teachings, culture, and the churches sordid (and recent) history.

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      • BaldProphet@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You linked exmormon.org? That's one of the most vitriolic and biased websites dedicated to spreading hate about members of the Church. It's clear you're strongly prejudiced, so there's no point in me trying to convince you to look beyond your own animosity.

        Good day.

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• ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You got gaslight my man.

  thetrevorproject.org/…/The-Trevor-Project-2022-Na…

  Utah teen lgbtqia+ suicide rate is very high. I’ve got a friend who is a therapist out there and i do not envy them. The Mormon church tries to say that they love and accept everyone but if you push them they will clarify they can love someone but they hate the sin. Ask yourself, how can you love someone when you can’t accept a fundamental part of them? If you practice your gayness/etc you will be treated differently by Mormon church standards. You will lose out on church privileges and be ostracized.

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  • ZeffSyde@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I saw the same video, thanks for the correction before I started spreading this false fact.

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• radicalautonomy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lmao, good one. 🤣 The Mormons contributed over three-quarter’s of the funding to get Prop 8 passed in California.

  www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/…/209748/

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• BoneALisa@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yea this may be the case for some mormons, maybe, but they as a whole are not very tolerant at all. We had a mormon in our school who was very vocal about his dislike about a couple where one was trans. He pretended to be a nice guy, but his views were gross when they came bubbling to the surface.

  I dont buy that mormons are a tolerant group for a second.

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• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Christianity is all about being tolerant actually. Its just that most Christians dont care

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• aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I too watched that Half as Interesting/Wendover productions video, that’s not what it said. In fact he explicitly said that’s not what he’s saying.

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  • xpinchx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair I watched it at a taco bell on my lunch break

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    • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lol, fair

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• lnxtx@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We watched the same video probably.

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  • xpinchx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah that’s it lol.

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• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There is a reason why I don’t mention that I am an atheist when I travel to Utah.

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