Sounds like both things are a problem?
dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The problem wasn’t the glass.
The problem was using wtf touchscreen controls to shift between drive and reverse. Mrs. Chao confused the two then died.
Shitty UI kills another person.
christophski@feddit.uk 3 months ago
dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m more inclined to blame Tesla’s electronic locks and confusing manual override before blaming the windows though
Quick, do you know which panel to remove to find the non-electronic manual override in a Tesla? Car is sinking fast and the electronics just shorted out from the lake.
AA5B@lemmy.world 3 months ago
find the non-electronic manual override in a Tesla?
a Tesla? There’s a legitimate point y’all are missing where they are different per model or over time
fuzzyspudkiss@midwest.social 3 months ago
Probably doesn’t help that Teslas guess which direction you want to go in and you have to change it if it’s wrong. autoblog.com/…/tesla-new-gear-shifter-guesses-dir…
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, only on the newer ones tho. My buddy got I wanna say a 2022? And it doesn’t have that. He specifically said if it did, he wouldn’t have bought it.
nxdefiant@startrek.website 3 months ago
she could have not floored it into a lake, but maybe I’m the only person that doesn’t go balls out when they’re backing out of a spot.
YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Accidents happen, and people panic. Maybe she thought she was pressing the breaks and made the problem worse. I highly doubt anyone would do it intentionally.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 months ago
So then why blame the car?
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
By default, Teslas are set in “one pedal driving” mode, which makes it so that the wheels won’t turn without the throttle/accelerator being pressed. That’s a different interface and behavior from the traditional automatic transmission, where simply lifting the foot off the brake pedal allows the vehicle to roll either forward or backward, depending on whether it’s in D or R.
The selection of the “transmission” setting of P R D in a Tesla also doesn’t have tactile feedback that subtly communicates which direction it’s set to.
The combination of the two means that the car is different in these ways and can contribute to mistaken gear selection plus application of the throttle, compared to a typical car.
brygphilomena@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Because they have changed the car controls radically. It’s not intuitive for many people.
The car relies on systems which add undue complexity and area for failure in unforeseen circumstances. Solenoid doors have been around since the 50s, but there are reasons they were never common until Tesla decided to use them.
I’m not saying the lady is blameless and it’s all the cars fault. But design decisions on the Tesla do makes them more difficult to use/escape from in an emergency situation.
bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I don’t know about you, but in these parts we spin the gear selector to random, floor it and yell “JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL!”
yildolw@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Hertz stopped offering Tesla rentals because Teslas are designed to go balls out when the pedal is lightly touched and too often that involves straight into a wall or a lake
skyspydude1@lemmy.world 3 months ago
One pedal braking makes this a bit tricky for people who are not used to it and/or panicking. You spend decades of your life having a seperate “go” and “stop” pedal, and then suddenly they’re the same one. You have your foot over the accelerator, lift a bit and feel the deceleration as if you’re pressing the brake.
Suddenly, something darts behind you, and your brain says “I’m feeling deceleration, so your foot is on the pedal that stops things” and you slam on it like you would the brake pedal. I’ve done it with the clutch/brake after hopping back and forth between a manual and automatic a few dozen times after a very long day of vehicle testing. Muscle memory is a powerful thing and your brain’s mental model of the world is not always correct.
AA5B@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No, I don’t see this at all. I suppose everyone is different but I fail to see how muscle memory if taking your foot off the pedal makes you press the same pedal. Those are opposite actions.
I definitely see the thing where you think you’re pressing the brake and don’t realize you’re on the wrong pedal so you press harder. That can happen on any car
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
personally i like to sit on my bike and just topple over, then start crying
arin@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Imagine if water spilled or leaked from the window onto the touchscreen, try using a wet smartphone… Could be touchscreen device malfunction or misclick causing the Tesla fatality
skyspydude1@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Good thing Teslas are known to not leak at all
Malfeasant@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I feel the sarcasm dripping from this comment…
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 3 months ago
You seem to have key detailed information on how the accident happened. Care to share?
dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/…/ar-BB1jAkIW
Within minutes of saying her goodbyes, she called one of her friends in a panic. While making a three-point turn, she had put the car in reverse instead of drive, she said. It is a mistake she had made before with the Tesla gearshift. The car had zipped backward, tipping over an embankment and into a pond. It was sinking fast. Could they help her?
HogsTooth@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I still blame Jeep for thinking a rotating selector was a good idea for a gear shifter. RIP Anton Yelchin.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I thought his jeep issue was that P on the dial didn’t actually guarantee the parking pawl was engaged to stop it from rolling. Separate from the lack of positive engagement with the P position, more about the physical disconnect between the two.
dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
At least you can still feel the rotating Jeep shitty gear selector.
Touchscreen controls on a Tesla have no feel or feedback. It’s a touchscreen.