Fuck your whatsboutism. This is good news; tiktok is a propaganda machine.
Comment on House panel unanimously approves bill that could ban TikTok
verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 months ago
our minimum wage is $7.25, no universal health care, the cops are militarized and keeping citizens in their proper places, food/ housing costs are more than our pay, transportation costs have skyrocketed, the postal service needs attention, we have fifty states not working together
but we showed that China TikTok what for BY GOD! they ain’t gonna spy on us BY GOD!
soloner@lemmy.world 3 months ago
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The cyber security professional inside of me wants to agree with you. The Liberal in me doesn’t want to give the government the authority to ban speech and what citizens are allowed to watch.
Mastengwe@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s proven propaganda. And a proven method of spying/gathering info.
I’m fine with the government removing it.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So you’re going to shut down YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, etc as well right? Considering they all do the same thing and FB even interfered in an election?
los_chill@programming.dev 3 months ago
Same. Just make it so Tiktok cannot advertise to American users or monetize American views. Start with that and wait for another non-ccp app to take that market.
Specal@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lemmy is also a propaganda machine, let’s ban this platform too then.
Nima@leminal.space 3 months ago
are we going to ban youtube as well? which has more than tiktok? or lemmy for that matter? or any other forms of social media?
people who fear monger tiktok make me worry that they fail to see the bigger picture.
tiktok isn’t the problem. the fact that propaganda is monetized is the problem. and banning tiktok will fix nothing whatsoever.
CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Propaganda is a major problem no matter what.
I mentioned in another comment that Tiktok is a massively direct pipeline to the minds of younger people by the CCP. Studies have demonstrated that the Chinese only version of Tiktok (Douyin) promotes positive content to users whereas Tiktok promotes highly negative content. To the point that a study concluded it was affecting the mental health of younger people.
retrieval4558@mander.xyz 3 months ago
How do you differentiate purposeful manipulation vs it being a natural effect of Western social media? I stopped using Facebook and Twitter because it was obviously toxic and affecting my mental health. I use TikTok a fair amount and don’t find it nearly as bad.
It’s also possible that there’s manipulation in the other direction. In their own app they could be artificially increasing positive content while allowing the natural social media toxicity and ragebait to dominate in other areas.
My personal opinion is that TikTok is a way that peer to peer information and news travels very quickly in a way that they can’t control, and they don’t like that. As with all things, they want to keep us isolated.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So you’re going to shut down YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, etc as well right? Considering they all do the same thing and FB even interfered in an election?
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I would 100% be for shutting those down. Doing so would probably lead us into the next Renaissance.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
so is instagram and facebook but you don’t see people want to ban them.
CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Instagram and Facebook aren’t run by the CCP
bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 3 months ago
they are propaganda machines though
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
yes they are run by the us empire, which has a more violent history.
still not seeing the point of banning one over the other
ares35@kbin.social 3 months ago
the legislation that needs to get passed, cannot, unless and until the house majority swings about 20 points the other way and the sliver of a majority in the senate is boosted by at least another 10.
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Those are the issues they dont want us collectively talking about, sharing our lived experiences and how they dont line up with the bullshit our government is gaslighting us with
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I am still semi convinced that the ban is really because there are a lot of tiktokers devoted to exposing trades and corruption of congress critters in near real time. Tiktok has a lot of flaws, but it’s great for finding breaking news.
ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m there as well, but on a broader scale: I think they’re wanting to ban it because they don’t have a hotline to Xi so they can get shut shit down. Basically want it banned for doing the same things Google does, but the problem is it’s not run by their own Musk-on-a-Leash
DancingBear@midwest.social 3 months ago
Pretty sure it’s the other way around, musk and zuck have congress on a leash. Especially musk since he has skynet and tesla and space x
ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 3 months ago
All companies that are heavily involved with government contracts and subsidies. At least a Mexican standoff situation. There goes the George Carlin quote about clubs and who’s in them