Religion
Comment on Zionists doing a rave to block aid trucks at Ker Shalom crossing while Palestinians are starving
M500@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
This is so strange. How can people have so little empathy for the lives of innocent people?
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
LostWon@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
It’s part of Israel’s propaganda to make this about religion to invoke irrational “War on Terror” sentiments in people who haven’t looked into it that deeply.
In reality, they’re dehumanizing and targeting all Palestinian Arabs, including Christians. Hence the shooting up and bombing of churches along with everything else.
mathemachristian@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Fascism
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
You just need to convince people that the “innocent people” are not people
crazyminner@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
They convince themselves.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
I don’t think the Israeli consented to being brainwashed by Hasbara.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They simply feel like they are better than them. That’s the key to make anyone a monster.
KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well to quote the Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”
They think they are subhuman. The because the very evil they fled from.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 months ago
A lot of people’s hearts are too full of hatred to hold anything else.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Hatred : Heart :: White Bread : Stomach
S_204@lemm.ee 7 months ago
75 years of being attacked leads to some fucked up thinking. Most Israelis, like most Palestinians know people who have been victims of violence repeatedly. Their mindsets aren’t the same as those in the West with the safety and security provided by border stability. Which is why it’s so interesting seeing the Western ideals being pushed on this conflict. Those ravers should be jailed though, they’re contradicting the ICJ order. Whether it’s the Israeli government or not, the order was to enable the provision of aid and that means clearing obstacles.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
S_204@lemm.ee 7 months ago
There’s no brainwashing needed to be able to read a history book at every turn. It’s been the Arabs who have attacked and the Israelis who have defended.
And just like we saw in October Palestinians struck out and now they’re crying because they’re losing yet another war they start. It’s an age-old tactic for Arabs to use human suffering in order to garner sympathy from the West, and it works for good reason. Nothing has changed since it was pointed out that peace will not come until Arabs love their children as much as they hate Jews and nothing will change until they stop raising martyrs and start deradicalizing their people. Defunding UNRWA is a good first step.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What history books are you reading?
Antisemitism in Islam and Arab World
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
What Hitler and the Grand Mufti Really Said: Time, Haaretz, WaPo
Yosef Weitz’ unofficial Transfer Committee and the JNF. Which has dispossessed Palestinians to present day. 972mag, MEE, Haaretz
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Additional context of what was detailed in Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, No freedom of movement, and also Water control
Palestinians lack civil rights
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Wow, the other guy already addressed the history books part but I wanted to stop for a second and focus on
It’s an age-old tactic for Arabs to […]
Wonder how people would take it if we were addressing the other party in this conflict, and someone like you would throw in a gross generalisation, pointing out that it goes back a long time.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 7 months ago
The problem with your hypothesis is that all of us can read a history book, and yet precious few would agree with the majority of Israeli citizens that murdering and torturing countless children is justified.
Again, if someone were persecuted, why would that make him want to murder innocent children? It makes no logical sense. The only explanation is brainwashing and religious zealotry.
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think they may be viewing it as more of an act of defiance and retribution for the rave hamas murdered all those innocent people at. If you view it as an isolated thing happening during a “war” then it really makes no sense.
livus@kbin.social 7 months ago
It makes no sense anyway. Hamas murdered innocent people so they want to ...murder more innocent people.
chillhelm@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It makes perfect sense. It’s not constructive, effective or helping to move towards any kind of resolution of this conflict, but on a personal level, it does make sense.
I think, as far as regular people go, at this stage both sides in the conflict are primarily motivated by revenge. We can dress it all up with fancy words of occupation, injustice, national self defense or whatever your chosen flavor of ideology is in this conflict. But for regular everyday people in the region the primary reason why they want to see the other regular people die is revenge.small44@lemmy.world 7 months ago
With that logic doesn’t that makes hamas targeting Israel civilians makes perfect sense since they are living under colonization?
livus@kbin.social 7 months ago
@chillhelm I guess. There are probably plenty of ordinary humans who empathise with other civilians there too, it's just we don't hear so much about those.
I knew a woman whose husband was held prisoner by the Axis during WWII Her response was to go every weekend to a POW camp of "enemy" soldiers and bring them food, chocolate etc, since they were in the same situation as her husband. That, is also part of human nature, just not the side the war monger$ like to encourage.
DdCno1@kbin.social 7 months ago
These protests were started by families of hostages who are still in Gaza. They don't want any supplies into Gaza until all hostages are released, because they fear that most of the aid will be stolen by Hamas anyway and used to prolong the war.
mathemachristian@lemm.ee 7 months ago
How the fuck is hamas prolonging the genocide, fuck outta here
Uranium3006@kbin.social 7 months ago
What are they afraid that they're going to throw loaves of bread and first aid kits at Israeli soldiers? Knock it the fuck off
livus@kbin.social 7 months ago
@DdCno1 I wonder what they imagine the hostages are eating.
What is happening to the hostages when they are being bombed by that psychopath Netanyahu.
I knew a woman whose husband was held prisoner by the Axis during WWII Her response was to go every weekend to a POW camp of "enemy" soldiers and bring them food, chocolate etc, since they were in the same situation as her husband.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 7 months ago
5% of the population is psychopathic, and most of them aren’t violent. Folks forget this stat. They also forget that moral competence exists on a spectrum, so that even many of the mentally healthier people willingly do evil things, especially in service to their religion.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Maybe they should have a number tatooed on their arms to remind them?
/superdarkhumor
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Israeli citizens are subjected to daily propaganda (e.g. “there are no civilians in Gaza”, “Hamas is ISIS”, “Hamas wants to murder all jews”, etc.) to legitimize their fascistic policies.
There are a lot of parallels to the US short/y after 9/11.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Same textbooks are being referenced.
“Closest, special” ally and all that jazz.