Maybe it’s an unpopular opinion given how reasonably popular Below Deck and SNW appear to be, but The Orville, for me, is the best post-2002 Trek thing.
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MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 9 months ago
I like that McFarlane just said “fuck that” in The Orville. He kept the gist — leave developing civilizations alone — but doesn’t even consider allowing them to go extinct for stupid reasons.
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
qarbone@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve watched some of the Orville season 1 and I can’t believe that claim. What season does it get good?
swordsmanluke@programming.dev 9 months ago
Season 1 is wildly uneven. Some episodes are a TV-14 Seth McFarland raunchy comedy in space and others are Star Trek, but with real people. If you don’t enjoy the (admittedly purile) sense of humor, The Orville probably isn’t for you. The show never completely abandons that tone even as it explores more classic Trek style writing.
There are some episodes though, like S01E08 which are played almost totally straight and those are the ones that feel the most like a TNG revival to me.
Taleya@aussie.zone 8 months ago
1.04-end of S1 (with the exception of Cupid’s Dagger) are rock fucking solid. I remember when it first aired, first three eps, eh it’s something to watch on a boring shift …then If the stars should appear, pria, krill. GODDAMN at that point I was salivating for the next ep and it did not disappoint. I absolutely adore the concept of New Dimensions as well.
Taleya@aussie.zone 8 months ago
If i had to do an inteo ep: Krill.
Starts with the crew getting a bridge officer to eat a cactus, ends on a damning note about the cycle of hate
hglman@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
They save them in tos as well.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 months ago
In TOS Kirk really leans into not interfering with the “healthy” development of a civilization. If it isn’t healthy in his judgement, he interferes. So, essentially when it comes to Kirk if it offends his sensibilities he takes free reign to change it while paying lip service to the idea of non-intervention.
zaphod@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Colonialism at its finest! The Apple is the absolute perfect example. “But bones, these people don’t even f*CK! We gotta destroy that lizard cave!”
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Only because Kirk hadn’t banged them yet.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 months ago
zaphod@feddit.de 9 months ago
Yeah, but in TOS we also see what happens if you forget a book about chicago gangsters on a developing planet.
samus12345@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And they even had an episode that explained why the Union had a “Prime Directive” and what happened when they tried to introduce new technology to a planet that wasn’t ready for it.
hansl@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Isn’t that also part of the ST lore? Or did I mix up The Orville and Star Trek canon… :/
Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I liked We Are Legion where Bob is like “Fuck this! I’m making sure this species thrives, even if I have to kill half the planet to do it.”. Also regarding genocide, the Bobs were like “file as ‘think about this later’ on our TODO list”.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Lol Bob went a level above genocide in the end there. Artificial stellar nova is a bad day for every species in a solar system…
Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That was one of the coolest scenes I’ve read before. The sheer magnitude of their destruction was unbelievable.
NotAtWork@startrek.website 9 months ago
Bob decided to delete the great filter.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
For real. Every now and again I go back JUST for that passage. So so good.
yukichigai@kbin.social 9 months ago
Really early on, too. It was one of the things that made me go "oh wait this isn't just fart jokes in space".
Though to be fair, the reality is that no matter how advanced we get there's still gonna be fart jokes in space. That scene in the cafeteria where everyone's getting Bortus to eat random things seems like a far more realistic vision of a space-faring future.
Delphia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The Orville is Star Trek if the federation actually had to recruit real people.
cm0002@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is exactly why I love lower decks, it’s so much closer to how we would probably act in the 24th century vs the heroized live action stuff lmao
exocrinous@lemm.ee 9 months ago
The Enterprise bridge crew are the best of the best. Lower Decks is a story about the mediocre of the mediocre
BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Ehh. Mighta been born that way (even that’s debatable) but definitely not anymore. Tendi is the ass-kicking heir to a pirate dynasty, Rutherford is an insanely talented and obsessive engineer, Beckett seems borderline unbearable in hand-to-hand combat and explicitly dodges promotions, and Boimler is Boimler.
Jarix@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Lower decks is painful to watch
Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
Really? I’m curious, you don’t like the humor or what is it?
Taleya@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Yeah ‘if the stars should appear’ was the point all of us sat up and went “HELLO”