I do vape. The long-term reusable vapes are a LOT more expensive than the disposable ones. My current setup cost 100 USD before batteries or coils.
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months agoI don’t vape, but I can’t imagine they’re cheaper than re-usable vaping devices in the long run either.
Feidry@lemmy.world 6 months ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No, I mean long-term as in costs. Over a year or two, won’t you be saving money?
Froyn@kbin.social 6 months ago
$9 for the device - Vuse is the brand
Approx $7 per "cartridge"$14 (on average) for a "Breeze Pro" disposable vape.
So it's cheaper, but about the same as regular cigarettes. Even worse, quality control on the cartridges is shoddy at best and I wind up moving the coil from a decent cartridge to one that failed less than 1/4 way through. At this point it's rare to have a coil last as long as it should.
Best way to save money is to quit. Dropped alcohol last year and THC before Thanksgiving.
Nicotine is next on the list, here's hoping for a cheaper new year.FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to get over. Nicotine is as addictive as heroin or cocaine. I wish you good luck, but don’t blame yourself if you can’t quit.
I quit in 2000 and I think the only way I was able to quit was because I worked in a place where everyone smoked, so I got a ton of second-hand smoke. I doubt I would have been able to do it otherwise and it was still one of the harder things I’d have to do.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to get over. Nicotine is as addictive as heroin or cocaine. I wish you good luck, but don’t blame yourself if you can’t quit.
I quit in 2000 and I think the only way I was able to quit was because I worked in a place where everyone smoked, so I got a ton of second-hand smoke. I doubt I would have been able to do it otherwise and it was still one of the harder things I’d have to do.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you really want long term savings… how about ditch your nicotine habit? The estimates I’ve seen put the cost at $130,000 on average over a lifetime and that’s excluding whatever medical bills might pop up.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not habit, it’s an addiction. Telling people to just quit smoking or vaping as if it’s that easy is ridiculous. People spend their whole lives trying to give up nicotine.
skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I spend maybe $60 a year on vaping and I do it a lot. Key is though, mix your own juice and build your own coils.
A premade coil costs a few bucks. Replacing the cotton and wire in a diy coil is maybe a nickel. A bottle of premade juice is $20 these days where I am. Mixing my own costs at most, a dollar and that’s if I use more expensive flavor additives.
I won’t pretend it’s good for you, but if you’re gonna do it, no sense in half asking it and spending way more than you need. Plus it’s fun to experiment with new custom flavors.
LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s absolutely flat out wrong and honestly concerning.
For a start nicotine addiction (vaping) has not been proven to have any long term health strain on the medical system. To say having a gambling problem is better is just crazy.
You realise the difference between nicotine addiction and gambling addiction right?
Feidry@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, in the long term you are saving money but if you have 20 bucks but not 100, what vape are you buying? That’s the point I’m making.
Nougat@kbin.social 6 months ago
Honestly, even for twenty bucks, you can probably get a cheap rechargeable vape kit.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 months ago
Personally, I can't keep a vape in one working piece for two years. Either the battery box fries, I shatter the tank, the USB port gets destroyed, or something else goes wrong. I'm very clumsy.
I have a box of backup parts and pieces at home because of this.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Goodness. I used the same SMPL+goblin tank for like five years straight. It’s still in great working order, I just got lazy and don’t wanna deal with wrapping my own coils anymore.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
The pod style devices are cheaper than the older style cloud chuckers and most of those now are refillable and not the juul style ones. I’m seeing good ones for $30-$50. The non removable battery gives them less longevity although they’re still significantly more environmentally friendly than disposables. I used a fog machine to quit smoking and I’ve kept using them, but I definitely get why new vapers are largely going with the USB sticks now.
Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 6 months ago
Not really anymore for the ones with built-in batteries like the disposables. Similar to disposibles they are typical 20W or less. You can get many of them for under $30, including the UWELL Caliburn line which is a quality product line. The G Coil packs are between $10 and $20 depending and last a week or more per coil of which there are 5. If you chain them, you're probably looking at between 2 and 3 days per coil.
The mods that require rechargeables like 18650 and other similar form factors sit between $50 and $70 for reputable brands, though for the ~200W mods it can be around $100 if you include their branded tanks.
I'd bet your mod is at least a 100W+, probably over 150W depending on when you bought them (they are cheaper now than a few years, which were cheaper than a 10 years before that).
The tanks are pretty cheap now too, even those multi-coil rebuildables. If you don't rebuild your tank and use pre-built coils it is going to be a little more expensive. Those tanks for pre-builts tend to be a bit cheaper as well, like ~$30 for non-pods. Pod tanks tend to be around $10 - $15.
I remember 80W mods going for between $100 and $300 back in 2011 depending if it was considered a "clone" or not.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I went from a caliburn to a geekvape aegis and the coils are cheaper and they last me WEEKS instead of days now! So now I’m a shill for that. Also it’s like 35USD.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Lawl my geekvape aegis was like 35USD and five coils are under 15USD. The coils last 2-3 weeks or more. The battery lasts FOREVER before needing a recharge.
I make my own juice so that’s free.
It was even cheaper using a SMPL mech mod and wrapping my own coils, but I got lazy. Now my 16+ 18650s go to my hobbyist flashlights.
I don’t know what your setup is, but you prolly overpaid
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They are not. In many cases they’re the same price or slightly less. If you want a long term refillable, rechargeable vape that comes with spare coils, and is a similar profile to a small disposable, it’s about $40. A similar disposable is about $35.
Nima@lemmy.world 6 months ago
oh my goodness yes. I couldn’t imagine buying a disposable every time I ran out.
that would possibly be just as expensive as smoking regular cigarettes.
I just use a little pod system that has replaceable coil heads. it was maybe 60 total because I bought two batteries. but I’ve not needed a replacement battery for my personal vape yet. Just have been replacing (or reusing) my coil heads.