I think it was sarcasm.
Comment on Five People Founded Tesla, But Only Elon Musk Became Extremely Rich
echo64@lemmy.world 6 months agoHe isn’t a “really good business man”, everything he’s made is built on a foundation of lies. Eventually, it’ll collapse or be saved by socialised systems for being too big to fail. Musk is a con man, not a businessman. He’s just made a living out of conning investors and the public alike.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fishytricks@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sarcasm doesn’t travel well through text.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah right. Sure it doesn’t.
muse@kbin.social 6 months ago
Wasn't sarcasm, some are that gullible
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Just have to lay it on thicc
4realz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh it wasn’t.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4realz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I understand where you’re coming from, but business is brutal and things like this happen in that world. PayPal (formely X .com) was also started by Elon, I don’t think he “scammed/tricked” anyone on that. And he has made billions for his investors over the years. I mean Tesla is worth over $600 billion, due to the marketing genius that is Elon.
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Man, learn something about someone before you go worshipping someone.
X was bought by paypal, but was far from “integral.” It was just its largest competitor for Confinidy at the time because Musk was washing it in money he made from a previous venture. Musk was a actually briefly the CEO of PayPal, but his decisions were so poor that he was forced out.. He still retained enough shares of paypal to hit it big time, which is when he poured all hia money into a long shot bet called Tesla, which he used goverment funds and seed capitol from his rich friends to keep alive until it turned an actual profit a decade later.
Dude grew up with emerald mine money, then just kept taking outlandish risks because he had an emerald mine to keep his ass housed and fed, and yeah, eventually hit it big. Super duper.
Turns out that if you have a wealthy life always secured at hands, you too could gamble big and make even more money. Thats how capitalism is deisgned to work. Capital makes more capital.
The fact that you’re suckered in bu the worlds best gambler play a game that had no negative stakes for him is sad as fuck man. Be proud of someone who overcame actual adversity for fucks sake
4realz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Interesting, thanks for sharing. I’ll have to do some more research on Elon then.
cocobean@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Don’t forget blatant market manipulation. Pump&dumps on Bitcoin, doge coin, TWTR, and TSLA…
IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 6 months ago
He didn’t start PayPal. It was founded by Pieter Thiel, another billionaire christofascist, and four other guys and non of them are called Elon Musk. X.com was bought by PayPal.
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 months ago
It’s wild how little this dude knows about Elon musk while singing his praises to the heavens, but I guess those two things go hand in hand.
ZeroCool@feddit.ch 6 months ago
Muskrats are consistently the least informed people in the room when it to Elon. It’d be a lot funnier if it weren’t so damn simple to find the actual facts about him. There’s really no excusing their ignorance. It’s just willful.
FMT99@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Oh yeah he didn’t actually do that… Still, what a genius amirite?”
helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 months ago
He isn’t a “really good business man”
I find it absolutely hilarious that literally anyone thinks one of the wealthiest people in the world “isn’t a good business man”. Like how completely proposterous is that?
It just speaks the the absolute bias of people who don’t like him and can’t possibly say anything that might be poorly construed as positive.
maynarkh@feddit.nl 6 months ago
I think that the criticism is that our system does not raise the smartest or the best to the top.
TheEntity@kbin.social 6 months ago
I don't know, it sounds like the definition of a business man.
echo64@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No, businessmen do business. Steve Jobs did business, he figured out markets, created markets based on what his business could provide. That’s actual business.
A grifter, a con man, is not a business man, they wear the skin of one to fool people like yourself into buying into the con. Looks like it works.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
As much as I loathe musk, this is exactly what Starlink is. It’s a company founded solely to buy the product SpaceX is making, because other people couldn’t buy enough.
Of course, Starlink is floating almost entirely on venture capital, but that’s how Amazon got started too.
echo64@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Here’s the rub. Starlink is not and can not be profitable without venture capital and subsidies. It exists to funnel money away from taxpayers. It’s a con built on lies like the rest. At least some people get to benefit from this, unlike people sold overhyped cars and promises of Mars colonies, but that’s changing with price hikes and service degredations too.
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Steve Jobs also conspired with his competitors to underpay their staff. Staff as in the people that helped him do business and make billions
WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 6 months ago
Right? At least Elon doesn't have to conspire to underpay his staff.
Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
My evil, greedy and manipulative capitalist is better than your evil, greedy and manipulative capitalist!!!
echo64@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My point is that one is a greedy, evil businessman. The other is a greedy, evil conman.
4realz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
True.