Comment on Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts

hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure it actually is significantly more dangerous. The front end of traditional pickups will still crumple and absorb a great deal of force. If the cybertruck is more rigid and the sharp edges have a potential to gash pedestrians on impact, that’s two factors that don’t apply to current pickups.

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  • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So are we really contemplating pickup trucks as more safe in a pedestrian collision because they have crumple zones?

    When a truck hits a pedestrian and the front of the truck crumples, is that pedestrian okay?

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    • DV8@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a difference between a shattered pelvis and being impaled because someone thought sharp corners are cool and safety standards are oppression.

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      • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No one is getting impaled on a forty degree corner lol

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t actually know the ride height but it looks like the cyber truck has a much lower nose when driving on normal roads compared to a lot of trucks, so while it may be very stiff, maybe it’ll just launch you over the hood.

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    • weew@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The shorter and lower nose should improve visibility too. Regular pickups have a blind spot as large as an entire daycare center.

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• SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Your wording makes it sound like the existence of even more dangerous trucks somehow excuses this dangerous truck. Both the 4 ft wall and the sharp metal blade edges are dangerous and irresponsible designs.

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  • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not excusing it at all, I think it’s one of the worst vehicles ever made, too big, heavy and fast. People are for sure gonna crash these beasts.

    What I meant was I’d like to see traditional truck designs that have millions of vehicles on the road be scrutinized before the 10 cyber trucks. You’re way more likely to be hit by a regular truck which has a deadly design than a cyber truck just because of how many more are on the road.

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    • SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I don’t like x but it can’t be worse than y” is a construction which serves to minimize how bad something is. Instead, let’s scrutinize both: “This cyber truck is ridiculously dangerous. While we’re at it, let’s also regulate the 4 feet tall wall of grill on other trucks.”

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Instead, let’s scrutinize both

        is a construction that leads to nothing getting done as a result of failing to acknowledge there are limited resources.

        The concept of “first” is absolutely key to accomplishing anything.

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• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And those are largely banned from the EU as well. The issue is the lack of regulation in the US, it’s killing pedestrians daily.

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• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tesla seem confident it’ll be safer in part because of that.

  I’m wondering if they’ve done some something that can lower the front further if an imminent crash is about to happen with a pedestrian to lower the nose even more.

  You think they’d have advertised a feature like that though by now, so maybe not, but I bet they could.

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  • DemBoSain@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure Tesla is devoid of any technology that detects pedestrians.

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    • fosforus@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It definitely detects pedestrians: the live on-screen image shows them when they are nearby. Whether it does anything for them is another question.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But I can tell that my Tesla does weird short brakings on a motorway when nobody is close.

        I hope you never drive where there are patches of ice on the road.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Detecting that collision is on the same order of difficulty as self-driving cars.

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    • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is not true.

      Anti collision systems of various sorts have been around for over a decade. The problem space is minuscule compared to self driving, and almost all car manufacturers offer both forward and reverse collision detection at this point.

      In fact I think EU is making it a requirement soon.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Detecting a pedestrian where you would want to lower the front vs say a deer or moose (or other vehicle for that matter) where you don’t want to lower it is more complicated.

        Better to just not build the vehicle out of sharp polygons like it needs to be rendered on a Super Nintendo with FX chip.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Any car with AEB has this capability which is a lot of cars ya.

        I don’t know how fast they can lower the vehicle though? There isn’t a lot of time between when AEB kicks off to slow you down and the accident.

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