Comment on A perfect visualisation of a wasteful system

• dwalin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I belive the beds in a store that sells beds are either to be sold or to help you choose a bed. They are not “fuck you, see how many beds i have” beds

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  • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’ll probably be sold at a discount too since it was for display

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    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For probably still more money than street sleeping homeless guy can afford of we are being honest.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Right but equally it’s not the mattress company’s job to accommodate the homeless person. It’s not like they didn’t have to pay an inflated price from the manufacturer so if they sold it for the price of the materials they’d probably make a loss.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ew, they would sell you a display bed? Seems, unhygienic.

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      • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean I don’t even wanna know how often the average person changes their sheets, let alone their mattress. My parents have mattresses in spare bedrooms older than me.

        Honestly though, display beds aren’t as scary to me as hotel beds

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    • lemann@lemmy.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      100%. I have yet to see somewhere that sells display furniture/appliances at full price, usually they knock some off due to shop guests messing around with it, wear and tear

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To that homeless person, yes that’s exactly what a mattress store is.

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s what everything everywhere is. Many folks in communist countries lack things others have too.

      Only in a hypothetical utopia could all persons have all things equally.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Especially because unless you’ve solved the limited resources problem, then even in a utopia you’re still going to have to have something like money, and therefore you will still have things that some people have that other people don’t have.

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which things? Because all historical sources show that the bottom 10% had all the bare necessities for life. They didn’t have luxury apartments, but they had a roof. They weren’t eating steak every night, but they had more caloric input and healthier diets than the US.

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  • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how capitalism works. It very much is a “fuck you look at our expensive shit” society.

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• bioemerl@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The beds in that store are for accumulation of wealth

  ...selling people beds so they have beds to sleep in. Beds that aren't riddled with bugs thanks to the store not being a homeless shelter.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re assuming selling beds is the only method to distribute them. That’s simply untrue.

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    • bioemerl@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Best method we have found so far. If you want cookie cutter efficient ass state made beds you can move off to the.... Well, every state who has tried has collapsed so you're shit out of luck.

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You mean like the still-existing and highly complex gift economies of natives all across the globe that have no homelessness?

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• workerONE@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So beds in the store are for accumulation of wealth but then when someone buys them they’re for sleeping in? Deep

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I do understand the sentiment but the thing is a lot of homelessness isn’t because people don’t have money not exactly. They may have support systems that they can make use of but if they have other problems they may not be inclined to use those support systems.

  You can’t just blame capitalism for homelessness, not exclusively.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which systems do you have in mind? Because homeless shelters are not a solution to homelessness.

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    • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But mattress stores are?

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Where did you extrapolate that from?

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  • 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You kinda can. Capitalism provides no incentive to help this man (actually, it provides a disincentive because the time and/or money needed to help this man could be spent on more profitable endeavors). The support structures that may exist are not capitalistic, are disincentived, and obviously not adequate.

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  • livus@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Personally I blame it for the bulk of it in my country. We have a massive housing crisis caused by housing unafordability.

    The middle class here mainly invest in rentals (not stockmarket) and then use them as AirBnBs that sit empty half the time.

    Meanwhile whole families are living in garages or worse, cars. People who are sane and ordinary and work are living in substandard shitholes.

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• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Who are the people in most need for a bed? Isn’t that need relatively equal? I mean, I guess when I was younger I didn’t really need one, but now I’m a wreck without one. I know some guys with copd that only sleep in chairs, so maybe their need is on low end.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The people without beds, followed by the people that need to replace their beds, followed by people that want to receive a bed for any other reason.

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just because I have a bed doesn’t mean I don’t need one. If I didn’t need it I wouldn’t keep it

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ok, how would this prioritization of resource distribution prevent you from getting the bed you need?

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• Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ROFL!

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    agreed, it’s pretty funny that someone thought that was a contradictory statement

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    • Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So… you think they should give beds away? Thats hilarious!

      Look kid, capitalism sucks. No one with a functioning brain is going to argue against this point. But going full bore extreme to the opposite side is just a fucking stupid.

      You’ll understand this when you grow up

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      • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Infantilize me all you want, that doesn’t change the fact that I’m college educated and in my late 20s. Explain to me why we can’t distribute beds to people. If we can, then please explain why we have to have homeless people.

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• crashfrog@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If anything this guy is a lot less in need of a bed than someone who hasn’t trained themselves to be able to sleep in a doorway (to wit, me.)

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