Yeah, they’re really struggling to get their reputation back after letting IE drag it down. I honestly never really used Edge until I started my new job last month. The system is locked to Chrome or Edge and I decided to give Edge a try since it would actually let me enable dark mode where Chrome is locked by system administrators for themes. It’s actually a good browser. I just never trusted it because it was a MS browser. But I prefer Firefox to all of them but that’s just a personal preference.
Comment on Microsoft now pops up a poll asking why you'd want to use another browser when you download Chrome
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months agoThe entire world runs on Microsoft products. They’re a very highly trusted company.
In this instance, Microsoft has tried everything but pay people to use Edge, but IE burned enough bridges that they’re struggling to regain market share. This flies in the face of how much trust consumers generally put in Microsoft products, and thus makes sense to ask.
CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 11 months ago
loobkoob@kbin.social 11 months ago
Plus Edge has support for vertical tabs built in natively. It's wild to me that horizontal tabs are still the default, using up valuable vertical screen space and having illegible names when you've got a certain number of tabs open, when vertical tabs are an option. So props to Edge for offering that.
CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I never really got into vertical tabs at all. Although I never have that many tabs open that I really need that space efficiency. I can never understand how people have more than like 8 tabs open.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have to use edge at work and the vertixle tabs is my favourite thing about it.
I often need lots of tabs open and finding rhem is difficult ao i have an autohiding verticle tab bar and i put my tabs into groups which i name and collapse so i can see what each tab is as alot of tabs have the same title as part of my job involves the use of a service desk.
I wish other browsers had it.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 months ago
The entire world runs on Microsoft products. They’re a very highly trusted company.
I don't think the entire world. Only about 5% of the people at the last three companies I've worked at had Windows machines, and most of them in accounting. And the only part of the software stack that was Windows were QA machines. Until recently I hadn't used a Windows machine for anything other than gaming since 2009.
And while they're still a surprising 48% of the server market, that's not "the entire world."
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Idk man I’ve worked with hundreds of companies of all shapes and sizes as a consultant and I’ve never once seen one that used non-windows workstations with the only exception being Macs used in software development. And I’m also fairly certain that the Microsoft server market share would be much, MUCH higher if you didn’t count web servers. Web servers are the only type of server I’ve seen be Linux in the majority. Most web service companies I’ve worked with even had Windows servers working behind their Linux web servers and load balancers.
I say this as somebody who hates Microsoft with a passion and would rather work in an all-Linux shop but a non-Microsoft enterprise just sounds like a unicorn.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 months ago
Then, not counting when I was freelancing, I've found three unicorns. There were so few Windows machines around it frequently became a problem where devs or support had to have someone in accounting test something.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah I could see it if they were an all-Mac environment in a small office that was tiny enough to not need Active Directory. Even then Mac desktops have like 20% desktop market share so that’d still be impressive that you got a Mac environment 3 times in a row.
Linux has like 3% of the desktop market, that would be pretty close to unbelievable.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Everything but make Edge a good browser, you mean.
Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Edge is a perfectly cromulent browser that fills the average user’s needs just fine and has some great additional cruft such as their vertical tabs and Collections implementation. It’s not 2013 anymore. Why people still go out of their way to get Chrome of all things is an important question for Microsoft to ask. Just living off of Chrome’s literal crumbs is worthwhile to Microsoft, imagine if they actually had a marketshare that reflected the two products capabilities. People obviously don’t do it for safety or privacy or functionality reasons, and Microsoft will literally pay you to use Bing. They probably wonder what the fucking issue is at this point.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
I think many people don’t feel they have an alternative. That’s not the same as trust.
With browsers, they have a choice, despite MS’s best efforts.
Mio@feddit.nu 11 months ago
People don’t have an alternative. Microsoft will choose for them at the next Windows update and pick auto MS Edge as the default browser again. They are solving problems…
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Yer, they need more anti monopoly stuff against them. As do Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, etc. They are have their own thiefdoms.
Cory Doctorow’s latest podcast talked about this mess : craphound.com/…/microincentives-and-enshittificat…
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
It’s worth noting that this is mainly an issue on the cheapest Windows licenses. On Pro editions and Enterprise editions you can prevent the hijacking via Group Policy, which is not available to Home licenses.
TGTX@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean…Microsoft is paying people to Edge with Microsoft Rewards. It’s not a lot, but you can net a few cents each day with their Edge exclusive tasks.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Except for all the Mac/iOS Android/Chrome stuff. Or NASA, the NY stock exchange, 50% of servers, Federal Aviation Administration, U.S. Department of Defense, Nuclear submarines etc. those run on Linux. But other than those yes, the entire world lol
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes. Aside from them, about 5 billion other people use Microsoft products.
This isn’t fanboy shit dude this is just reality.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No fanboying, just pointing out an inaccuratacy. And watch your language, my grandma uses the Internet smh.
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
The latest estimate of how many people that use the internet at all is around 5 billion. Where did you get that number?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage
Android is by far the most used operating system for web use and for servers it’s estimated at 77 % linux, not 50 % as stated above.
…wikipedia.org/…/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
Windows dominated the desktop segment, you should realize that desktop use is in decline in favor of mobile usage.
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I got that number by picking a random large number.
The point is it’s silly to suggest that Microsoft is not the global industry standard for most businesses.