Comment on YSK: Israel is ethnically cleansing Lebanon
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
We’re going to have a world war against the USA and Israel. It might not be today, tomorrow or even in a few years… but I feel like it’s inevitable. They are rogue terrorist states and are responsible some of the most heinous war crimes in recorded history. They need to be stopped.
Just like tge rogue terrorist state Russia needs to be stopped in their attempted annexations and political psyops.
Or China needs to be stopped in their aggressions against Taiwan and ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs and other “undesirable” people.
I feel like there is no winning scenario left in this.
Who are “we” anyway?
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years, to a genocidal entity like “Israel” that is being constantly aided by the US empire and defended by the western propaganda machine.
And regarding Xinjiang, you may need to look at the facts before throwing terms like “ethnic cleansing.”
China is now arguably the fifth largest supplier of arms supplying weapons and ammo to conflict regions. China is well known for its forced cultural assimilation and they have never stopped. Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
I see you cherry picked the years because between the cultural revolution and the subsequent famine China lost well over 50.millions citizens.
We know the facts, the labor camps, the dramatic drop in birth rates, the altering of mosques to look more Chinese. Forced cultural assimilation is a genocidal act when the US did it to the Native Americans. China is no different.
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year while be and obvious oligarchy. Why did all these innocents need to die just for China to become fascist themselves?
If the US disappeared tomorrow Chiva would happily fill its spot as a the number one human rights abusers with their garbage partners Russia and North Korea.
Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
Opening in the sense that there’s been over a decade of accusations and still no actual evidence of even a single death, or indeed any physical evidence at all, with the excuse that it’s all going on in secret. So, the opposite of open.
Israel couldn’t hide genocide in Gaza despite having it completely locked down and the tacit support of the media, but apparently China is doing it on an even bigger scale in a place people can freely travel to.
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year while also being an obvious oligarchy. Why did all these innocents need to die just for China to become fascist themselves?
Capitalism and socialism are not some clear cut systems or categories that can be merely “adopted”. They are modes of production that are dictated by the material and social relations of production in a given space at a given time. For instance, the transition from feudalism to capitalism did not happen neither swiftly, nor neatly nor universally; rather, capitalist bubbles existed at the epitome of monarchical rule and did not expand until the favourable material circumstances emerged — abrupt demographic changes in the 14th century, colonialist ventures by private companies in American continent, and so forth. And even after capitalism became the dominant mode of production, feudalist relations still existed at the peripheries.
A similar perspective should be adopted in China. The existence of markets is not a core aspsct of capitalism; and regarding billionaires, the PRC prosecutes even more of them, in addition to the tens of thousands of millionaires who emigrate every year.
This is exactly what socialism looks like, a transitional stage that will bring forth a post-capitalist society once the international contradictions (Chinese millionaires) aas well as external (US imperialist encroachment) are extinguished. Some policies may succeed, while others may fail and become lessons for future policymaking. But to call this anything close to fascism is treason to the working classes of the Global South.
Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
Just ask yourself a simple yet important question: what does the PRC stand ro benefit from indiscriminately prosecuting its own citizens and making them suffer aimlessly?
You can travel right now to Xinjiang and visit all of its towns and cities freely with total access and ease (as many tourists do yearly), and you would see people openly speaking Uyghur, rituals and local events practiced publicly, and mosques operating normally. If you’re adamant on believing what some white journalist from NYT or WSJ has to say instead of the locals and residents as well as tourists and independent, on-ground reporters, then this conversation should stop right here.
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years
I see you cherry picked the years
Unbelievable 🤣
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year
Because doing so has allowed them to lift 700 million people out of extreme poverty. The revolution that feeds the children gets my support.
Are you a Maoist? Do you think China should’ve stayed the course instead of doing reforms? Then they wouldn’t have billionaires. Or are you just chauvanistically criticizing them regardless of what they do or don’t do?
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The zionist instance lmao. Be careful mate the polizei might come to your house if you don’t support the genocide enough, you dirty antisemite
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Invading Tibet was an act of war.
The concept of an independent Tibet never existed before the Beitish imperialists in India plotted to expand their s phere of influence into China. See for instamce the Lhasa Convention.
Furthermore:
Britain put before the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs a five-point demand, indicating the denial of China’s sovereignty over Tibet. When the Chinese government rejected the British demand, the British blocked all the roads leading from the British Raj in India to Tibet.
In 1913 the British government coerced local Tibetan authorities into declaring independence and proposed that:
“Britain be the weaponry supplier after total independence of Tibet;” “Tibet accept British envoys’ supervision of Tibetan financial and military affairs in return for Britain’s support of Tibetan independence;” “Britain be responsible for resisting the army of the Republic of China when it reaches Tibet;” “Tibet adopt an open policy and allow freedom of movement of the British.”
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years
Invading Tibet was an act of war.
When exactly do you think that happened?
Why would you attack me by implying I have alterior motives when I simply replied to the top comment? It doesn’t mention an “imperialist machine”, it states that there will be a world war against the US & Israel.
I simply stated that I can see no “good” allied forces against the “bad” axis in this conflict as in WW2 (let’s just say that, for all its own problems, the lines were more clearly defined back then). Everyone’s kinda the baddies now.
Regarding your sources: Wow, someone has certainly been busy. I simply haven’t had the time to read it all, but if you consider a paid journalist on a curated trip to the region and a professionally produced video series with apparent residents as credible sources, I am not convinced. It’s no secret that Bejing has a heavy grip on the media and censors basically all critical outlets. I do not expect any official account of anything bad ever happening there.
Always whatabouting huh?
None of those is led by a documented pedophile
Oh wow, yeah if they’re at least undocumented it’s all good.
Just because Trump is basically the worst possible example of a human being there can be, I’m not gonna believe for a second that any other ruling politicians or oligarchs are saints. Just that those others have better control over the media, which Trump wants to achieve as well.
China didn’t bomb any school lately. Sounds like you’re looking for excuses for what your side is doing.
Which makes sense given feddit overt support for zionism
All countries who is doing or supporting grave crimes agsinst humanity should be help acvoutsble including your trashy country
What about Putin guys??? Russia is bad guys!! Guys??? What are you doing over there guys???
Are you still going on about this? How often do you want to reply to me?
Or are you one of those Russian bots just spouting the same stuff over and over?
Yes i’m a Russian bot. I’m currently in siberian gulag and this is my job. Putin sent me here after i farted too loud
I don’t think so. They can’t manufacture their weapons if the rest of the world stops exporting parts and material inputs to them.
That goes both ways, the US is the world’s arms dealer for a reason; not just to “make money”, but to insure that your military is dependent on the USA.
Doesnt work that way. Evil is not a country. You can attack it and try to destroy it, and if you succeed, another country will take its place.
It’s happening now, western countries have just mostly decided to fall in line and support them
This is a gross generalization. It’s like aliens looking down on earth and saying “we really have to do something about these humans.”
Like, sure. We, as a species might have earned that… But, is it all humans?
The right shift in power across nations could solve this. It starts with people acknowledging that the real issue is rogue governments. Right now in the United States, our government is rogue.
Random people born in Russia don’t want to kill Ukrainians any more than every American wants to kill random people in the Middle East. Our humanity is important, and where you’re born and live doesn’t dictate your loyalty to empowered dictators.
The movement that needs to happen is one where the people rise up in all nations, and unite. It starts with language. America doesn’t need to be destroyed any more than Russia, but their governments require radical changes.
i feel like the execution of the ayatollah was our century’s franz ferdinand. as in it’s already begun and will only get worse.
Just keep this in mind during the next election when you see the US suspects pushing “both sides” and “corporate dem” narratives. Don’t be a sucker.
Don’t be a sucker, vote for our private organization’s billionaire-curated mook!
The Ds won’t save you, is not 1938 any more. Biden was a 50-year hack and an embarrassment. Trump is a travesty and an embodiment of what you get when corporations are people and cash is free speech.
You won’t be provided with a Messiah, I’m afraid, not by the Democrats anyway
All european governments are supporting and helping israel government don’t make it an USA thing.
This is such a comically delusional and out of touch comment that can only be found in the bowels of Lemmy
Is your country doing business with the rogue terrorist states? is your country buying arms from the USA, or using the US Dollar to trade?
If you’re going to stop the USA, you better ramp up arms production yourselves.
The US has armed a lot of the world, and that world is dependent on the USA for specialists, training, parts, ammunition, F-35s, and so on, an endless list.
They did that for a reason, not just to make money, but to make DEPENDENCE
taygaloocat@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Maybe I’m ignorant but if every English speaking nation stood together and told the US that they were being evil and doing wrong, and that they’d no longer join in with their invasions, the US would probably stand down.
Too bad they’re all pussies (Australia included)
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No us is out of control under trump, no reason nor logic will influence the US unfortunately
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This might have been the case under sane leaders like George W. Bush, Mike Pence, and the last Democrats, but I think this outcome is improbable as 1) that didn’t happen when George W. Bush waged war over lies in the Middle East; 2) This administration is composed of hyped-up christo-fascists and their sycophants, and is goaded by oligarchs who want the destruction of the USA so they can buy up what remains.
cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s fucking wild that W is a beacon of sanity now. You aint wrong but its still fucking wild
sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can just hope that the orange despot is the bottom and if we go even lower we’ll be back to the Stone Age level civilization if we’re lucky.
KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
haha I paused a bit as I wrote that, too; but yeah. W Bush was stupid, a bad public speaker, and a warmonger… but he knew when to listen to his advisors.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t know what people are talking about here, but Trump is an evil asshole and this will never work.