Comment on Without a hint of irony, Russia mocks US for 'miscalculating' Iran war

xxam925@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  yeah when i get bored in history class i make up stuff too

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• ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Can you explain? I’m lost.

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  • IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The fact that Ukraine was starting to get into NATO effectively meant more Western influence near Russia. Also, any plans of Russian expansion would be dead because Ukraine would be a NATO country. So I think what he meant by “choking Russia” is disallowing them to take over Ukraine.

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  • cosecantphi@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ukraine joining NATO has been Russia’s clearly stated red line for decades, guarantees for the non-expansion of NATO into the former Eastern Bloc, Ukraine chief among them, was even a major condition for the Soviet Union to agree to dissolve. Then NATO and the US organized the Maidan coup, and Ukraine started ethnically cleansing Eastern Ukraine of Russian speakers to the point that Ukraine was in a civil war with the breakaway republics.

    Russia tried to deal with this diplomatically for many years through every channel at their disposal, but as it turned out NATO, the US, and Ukraine were negotiating entirely in bad faith to give Ukraine time to militarize. This war was several decades in the making and Russia was not at all the aggressor, even if they severely miscalculated what the cost of the war would be.

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• hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  this disjointed thinking is what happens when your mother drinks too much vodka with you in utero

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• rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nah, this shit has been going on since russia called itself an empire openly. The only thing that changed is the branding

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• Typotyper@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Lol

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• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Right…we made them amass 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border and them attack using Jedi mind tricks… gimme a break.

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  • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I thought Zelenskyy was the one using Jedi mind tricks on Biden to scam him for weapons? /s

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i need glass

      best i can do is patriot missiles

      oh i will take patriot missiles. i think i need about—

      gonna stop you there. you’re gonna get 6

      …

      alright good talk!

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Choked Russia… By buying their oil!? Russia creates all their own problems by being fascist and stupid at the same time.

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• samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  lemmy.ml is that way -->

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ok then

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