I seriously get annoyed at the amount of work it takes to keep a PC running.
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Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks agoIt’s me. Outside work, I dumped PCs a decade back and have lived a much better digital life.
I seriously get annoyed at the amount of work it takes to keep a PC running.
kittykillinit@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I mainly just turn mine on. Not a lot of work.
I mean, it’s been a lot of work lately because I’m learning a new OS and mucking about with shuffling some data around on a couple different drives, but for the last 5 years or so, the “work” involved in keeping my desktop running was mainly plugging it in again after moving to a new apartment.
kingofras@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sir this is a Lemmy’s
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ugh sounds like my nightmare. I try to keep the phone away and only use desktops or laptops. I just use the phone for calls, texts, photos, Lemmy/rss and some light web browsing.
Strive7307@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I seriously get annoyed at the amount of work it takes to keep a PC running.
Can you elaborate more on that? In my experience unless you set up a complicated NAS or home server setup maintaining a personal computer doesn’t require much upkeep. I prefer it over a phone because of the physical keyboard and superior window / tab / organization options.
PS: Wrote this comment from my phone anyway 🥲
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You see all those things you just listed?
Those are things you hardly ever worry about or whose existence you completely forget about when you ditch a PC.
Your computer is an annoying child you never parented.
Wanna boot it up? Better wait for a minute or two. Oh! Now it needs an update because something went wrong last night when it was supposed to automatically do it.
Oops! Lost internet connection. Better go pecking around menus.
Shit. It’s acting up still. Your game you’re trying to play is losing frames. Something to do with heat management. Something about a graphics card? Who frigging knows, better ask the internet from a phone.
P.S. Your antivirus is out of date and you need money to renew your subscription. The process will take another few hours of your time because you have to babysit it past all the AI that’s sure to get in the way.
Bah! Humbug!
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can introduce you to our lord and savior Debian? All your troubles will go away when you accept Linux into your heart.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No. That requires a PC.
Tablets and phones allow keyboards and run 99 percent of the programs or tasks I could ever need.
chloroken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Holy fuck I wish I had read this comment first. You are actually an idiot of the highest order.
HowdyLemmy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It sounds like you’ve been burned by a poor PC experience. Your problems are legitimate though they should be rare, which is why your sweeping characterization of the PC experience is being downvoted.
I am much more interested in your mobile workflow! What apps do you use? Do you use workarounds for something PC users wouldn’t think about? Do you use accessories like a keyboard/mouse/monitor?
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I have a tablet with a keyboard for writing. I have a phone that is synchronized to all files across both devices.
I don’t need a monitor because the tablet has a kickstand.
I don’t need a mouse because I can touch the screen. I could if I wanted to so there is a (now long-uncharged) wireless mouse in a drawer somewhere.
It’s convenient and I can simply walk up, touch the screen or keyboard and be typing away in about 5 seconds without fail.
The phone is even more convenient because it’s in my pocket.
I have zero worries about driver issues, subscriptions for anti-virus running out and the other things I’ve listed in my original comment that seem to have pissed off all the PC people.
One caveat I’m sure the angry old people will miss (on purpose?): For work- or academic-related items a PC or laptop is a better workflow than the mobile devices. If or when I next need that I’ll probably get a cheap laptop and then ditch it afterwards.
I don’t think I’ve mischaracterized the PC experience but it’s been about a decade since I ditched the technology. Do those PC-specific annoyances no longer exist?
Convenience trumps all the annoyances I associate with PCs. That includes installing: Ubuntu, Linux, alternate file applications such as OpenOffice, etc. I really can’t be bothered. I’m actually surprised (and humored) at how viciously the PC people have come out to scream at the clouds.
I wonder if this is how old people saw my generation when we ditched the typewriter for a computer?
If you made it here, I just wanna say thanks for a rational response. I know it’s hard having someone go against the grain online.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I hate using a phone. It’s small, the screen is tiny, the keyboard sucks (all touchscreen keyboards suck), you can’t have more than one thing in the tiny screen at a time (yes split screen exists and Android has freeform windows, but they suck even more).
A desktop is a breeze to use. It feels liberating to use after being on a phone.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Then get a larger phone or a tablet and a keyboard. You have options that are infinitely more efficient and less annoying than babysitting a PC.
At some point you must face the question: Are you using a PC because it’s how you’ve always done it?
chloroken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Lmao. Buddy if you want to use a phone as a computer, no worries. But fuck all the way off with the idea that using a PC is difficult or less efficient than a phone. Get a grip on reality.
“Babysitting a PC” you sound like you’re tech illiterate.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Buddy, you sound so defensive typing this out on your phone while your PC sits all the way across the room.
Euphoma@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Programming on phone is pretty terrible, I have spent a decent amount of time doing this and you kinda need to accept that a lot of regular dev programs on termux don’t work. And you also have to accept using the terminal for everything
Being able to program with a mouse is pretty convinient for things like debugging
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Fair. But you also conceded that you can do it on a phone, just not as efficiently.
My comment specified “outside work.”
I think a lot of people downvoting and defending their PCs so . . . vociferously are just old and set in their ways. Not everyone is a programmer/coder.
Hupf@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You do you, mate.
Donebrach@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
OP: pulls out phone “Ha HA LET ME SHOW YOU MY 30% completed POKéDEX
Bill: “I can store actual Pokémon here…
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I would, but I can’t fit a 32 inch screen in my pocket ever since I blew out the crotch on my JNCOs.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Perhaps get some prescription glasses for your eyes so you can see screens better, mate.
I looked it up and you can save your JNCOs with Ceftriaxone or Levofloxacin. Check with your doctor, mon frère.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I could do a lot of things I do on the daily on my phone. But it would be more finicky and annoying. I have automated pretty much all regular maintenance my PC needs long ago. I just don’t see what I’d get, except for more janck.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You don’t deserve the massive downvotes, just because you have different person experience than others. Lemmy hivemind is just nasty.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Appreciate it.
I figure it’s the Reddit crowd that brought their habits over.
That being said, I’m partly to blame because I mirror their behavior back at them when they get really nasty.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’re getting downvoted because of the condescending tone and blind and ignorant assumptions. That comment deserves all the downvotes.
luluberlue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
“More efficient and less annoying than […] a PC.” talks about modern day smartphone
huh?
I’d like to know how a completely underpowered totaly locked down piece of crap I keep struggling with daily is “infinitely more efficient and less anoying” than my well oiled machine running mostly FOSS.
Google is talking about removing the ability to install software while Apple is busy reinventing Windows Aero 20 years later. Meanwhile both are spying on you and no you can’t have any alternative due to how locked down those things are.
Can’t access some parts of the storage of my device due to “security concerns”. Can’t disable some aggressive “optimisations” that keeps killing my apps to prevent OOM, can’t use anything less bloated than the stock OS that uses roughly all the available RAM, AI everywhere…
Add on top of that those fucking “all touch and swipe based” UI that are just a pain, virtual keyboard included. My fat fingers on a tiny over-sensitive touchscreen means a fuck ton of misclics. Bring me back Blackberry or Psion like physical keyboards.
Do you know which computing device I own that isn’t such a pain? My desktop computer, my ol’ reliable!
Bring me a smartphone that doesn’t attempt to dictate how I must use it, that I actually own and with buttons and I might end up liking it. Until then enjoy that corporatist hellscape without me.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hey, I’m sorry you’re using a Jitterbug. Perhaps it’s time for a modern smartphone with a touch screen.
Snark aside, you most likely fall into some category of Luddite, hanging on to your PC and equating device to your personal dislike of (x) company.
You sweet boy, thinking your PC isn’t also a tool for spying on you. They’re all guilty, just in varying degrees.
I’m sorry I interrupted you. You may continue screeching.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
So how fast do you type on your phone? Because I can barely get 50 words per minute and even then my accuracy suffers… So that’s a third of the speed of a proper keyboard and way more typos.
Why would I pay for a tablet and a keyboard to get a second super limited device as opposed to having a proper computer that can do anything I want it to?
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Pretty damned fast, actually.
The rest of your excuses are pretty sad but I get it. Gotta protect what you support even if it’s based on outdated information.
To respond in kind, I offer this: You could always cut off the anti-virus subscription and sell your home PC to get that cheap tablet and keyboard.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I get personal preferences, but saying the words “more efficient than babysitting a PC” is on a whole new level.
I guarantee I can type faster on a full keyboard than you can even talk and can simply get things done faster and more efficiently on a computer than you can on any mobile device.
No, I don’t have to face that question, because you have no idea how old I am. You’re blindly assuming that I only started using mobile devices well into adulthood, and you’d be wrong.
I didn’t say my keyboard “doesn’t work”, I said “sucks”. The difference in ergonomics between a (relatively) tiny mobile touchscreen keyboard and a full sized mechanical keyboard is like comparing a 40w lightbulb to the sun.
At some point you must face the question: Are you using a phone instead of a PC because it’s how you’ve always done it?
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It took you two days to type that out. I did this in 30 seconds.
Checkmate, atheists.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There was a post here somewhere about how younger generations are just using phones to make large purchases and it is baffling to us old folk. I felt so seen.
Like… If I am booking a flight, or a hotel, or buying an appliance, or electronic etc. That’s a computer purchase. I need multiple windows, tabs, and monitors. I need to be weighing options and doing research with side-by-side comparisons. I can’t do that on a phone. These younglings are doing stuff like that from a phone, and I can’t wrap my head around it.