They usually face one direction. And don’t place them to watch each other afaik.
testaccount372920@piefed.zip 15 hours ago
How would you take such a camera down without being spotted and tracked? Do they not look in all directions?
Not asking for all the technical details on how to take one down, just curious how so many can be taken down with so few arrests after. I guess it’s a matter of good disguises?
scala@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Well, that might change after this though.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Even if they do, don’t be a dumbass and have your phone on you and be completely covered and approach the device via analogue method (e.g. walking, bicycle without a serial, etc).
blitzen@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
As an aside, I’ve been toying with the following idea:
I like to refurbish bicycles for my own use. The idea I’ve had is to buy cheap Facebook marketplace / Craigslist bikes, disassemble, grind off the serial, and paint in a uniform and non identifiable (or at least less so) and reassemble, replacing wear parts. Put them into the community to use however they see fit, cheap enough to ditch without caring.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
The idea of a bunch of surveillance cameras watching other surveillance cameras only to prevent vandalism of the surveillance cameras…
turdburglar@piefed.social 12 hours ago
it’s sorta like llm agents in a social network talking amongst themselves, innit?
sobchak@programming.dev 12 hours ago
I’ve seen them installed in pairs that watch each other. I also see them in the vicinity of store security cams or intersection cams. I don’t know of one in my area that isn’t in range of another camera.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Wear appropriate clothing/face covering. Bring paint. Paint lenses. Then dismantle camera.
r0ertel@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I would wonder if it would be illegal to promote your live of the country by hanging a giant flag directly in the viewing path of the camera. Would you get arrested for being too patriotic?
programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Balaclava and crowbar combo?
Ulrich@feddit.org 14 hours ago
They’re not omnidirectional. You can just walk up from behind it.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
right, but you do have to approach it. I think the question is more “how are people not being tracked from blocks away”
Ulrich@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Use Deflock maps to avoid them. Ride a bike. My city is full of rogue natural trails so I can get around pretty easy without coming across them. Even if I did I have an indistinct bike with no logos. Typical balaclava, hat, sunglasses, etc.
testaccount372920@piefed.zip 11 hours ago
Yep, that’s the direction I was thinking. The whole point of these cameras is to track people, including you, meaning that they can track everyone in the area before and after a camera is destroyed. It seems to me that the logical time to destroy a camera is when few other people are arround to stop/witness someone destroying a camera, but that also means there are few people to track and therefore it’s easier to single out whoever did it.
Ulrich@feddit.org 13 hours ago
Uhhhh I think the better question is how are they?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Dress like an ice agent (but only for a brief moment please)
testaccount372920@piefed.zip 5 hours ago
You mean wear something generic, unidentifiable and add some body armor?
Agent641@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Leave your phone at home.
Don’t drive your own car there, and don’t get an uber.
Ride a scooter, bicycle, or walk.
Wear a dust mask, headphones (to prevent ear pattern recognition) and safety glasses.
Wear a high vis vest while working on the camera.
Wear dark clothing with no logos over the top of something dorky, like a white Ralph Lauren shirt and golf shorts. Ditch the dark clothing if you even sense you might be stopped on the way home.
Put duct tape on the soles of your shoes to make the shoe prints indistinct.
Wear gloves, rigger gloves are fine, latex if you have nothing else.
Work quickly, never run (unless your under disguise is a jogging outfit) and if you see a cop, security, or any person that suspects you, believe in your heart and soul that you haven’t committed a crime. Find a way to delete the act from your memory, become an innocent person. Emotional escalation to cop should be indifference, confusion, irritation, indignant, lawful but otherwise suspicion, and when detained or arrested, silent cooperation. That’s how innocent people behave when suspected or accused of a crime. Once detained, say nothing except your name, age, DOB, address, license number ect and “I don’t know, I need to speak to a lawyer.” Even though they will ask you a thousand questions to try to get you to implicate yourself. There is nothing you can say that will talk you out of cuffs.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Specifically say you are invoking your right to silence and specifically say you are invoking your right to council.
If they continue to pester you after this, it’s a violation of your rights and a lawyer will have more ammunition to defend you.
If they come back hours later and try talking to you again, you invoke them again. After a significant period of time (whatever the cop decides) they can try again to “see if you’ve changed your mind.”
But just staying silent is not the same in the courts as invoking your right to remain silent.
People tend to want to talk and fill silence. You’ll have to control your urges and learn to be comfortable in silence.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Also, don’t sweat too hard because covering/uninstalling cameras like this is misdemenor-level vandalism (don’t take the cameras, they cost enough to warrant felony grand theft charges).
You’ll have a bond and the bond will be low enough that most bail bondsmen will bond you out on promise of payment even if you don’t have someone outside ready to come get you.
If you’re caught, you’re looking at a few months of probation and restitution. If confront with police, stay calm, follow orders, “I don’t want to answer questions without a lawyer” and “<Your name>” are all you need to say. Do that an you’ll be right back home opening a gofundme in no time.
Don’t do crimes though, obviously.