Comment on Double standards

neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• cheers_queers@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  thats crazy, i had no idea that would be considered animal cruelty. i grew up on a farm and have only ever seen the head chopped off but out of curioity, how is severing the spinal cord with an axe more inhumane than twisting the neck? logically speaking, the blood draining out has  no effect on cognition, and what if theneck doesnt snap the first time?

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  • KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Honestly decapitation is more humane than a broken neck. The drop in BP is enough to cause immediate lights out, where as someone with a broken neck could very well have to suffocate to death inside their own bodies.

    The blood pressure drop has a huge effect on cognition.

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  • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think they mean the guy slit the birds neck and then let it drain, instead of fully beheading it.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, I think decapitation is fine. I think this guy just cut their carotid, and hung them up to die.

    Not a great way to go, honestly.

    I’m familiar with some butchering methods, but I’m no butcher. I think that the most common practices in large butcher shops involve either decapitation, or a way of instantly killing the animal. Pretty sure they use a type of bolt “gun” for bovines that basically crushes their skull.

    It seems like it is brutal, but their death is so instant, it is considered to be humane.

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    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Chickens are often slaughtered by cutting their necks in a same way but using a machine. They go through an electric shock bath right before cutting their necks. Some chickens survive the shock and flail, getting their necks half-cut by the machine before entering a hot bath.

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      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I certainly didn’t mean to imply any methods are perfect or without the opportunity to go wrong.

        Hopefully nobody got that idea from what I said.

        I’ll reiterate: I’m not a butcher, so my knowledge is limited. I do, however, still eat meat despite all that I know about it.

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• crank0271@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hanging the bird upside down, cutting its neck (specifically, the arteries that are in the neck) and letting it bleed out is standard practice. The blood drains quickly and they die within a few seconds. It sounds horrible if you haven’t seen it done but this is how many (most?) farmers do it.

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve seen aunties grab a chicken by the neck and just spin it around till the head comes off.

    It sounds to me like the guy told the neighbor “stop feeding my birds, I’m going to slaughter them soon”, and the neighbors who had been feeding the birds without permission reported them?

    Anyways. Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.

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    • seathru@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Peacocks are annoying as hell. Preposterously loud.

      One of my neighbors have Peacocks. The rest have dogs. I’ll take Peacocks any day!

      It’s kind of adorable hearing them yell at cars driving by too fast/loud.

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      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The peacocks I’ve seen are so loud they can be heard at the top of a 25 story condo. I’ve literally seen people sell their condos because of the damn peacocks. Maybe they only have peahens?

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s how I was taught how to do it.

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• ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ah, so standard Halal practice, which is savage animal cruelty with a devoted PR department.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    excact same with Kosher laws

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  • zarathustrad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s ok as long as enough other people share the same delusion.

    Yet, If I tell them the voices in my head told me to watch the light drain from my prey’s eyes as it dies before I eat…

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• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pretty sure halal and kosher meat requires that the animals bleed out.

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  • spectrums_coherence@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, I have seen the animal bleed out once, and it is hard to watch.

    A small and young lamb is all tied up laying on the ground with the carotid severed. It is clearly in fear and tries very hard to get away. That struggle lasted for a long time until it eventually is exhausted and died.

    I am not sure if this is how halal and kosher meat are produced though.

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  • Jollyllama@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve seen Kosher/Halal killing of chickens, goats and cows. Cows are the worst.

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• RattlerSix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think of the method this guy used as “The Sarah Palin method” because she once did a news interview while people were killing turkeys in the background that way.

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• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Literally every single halal certified carcass was joined like this.

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• TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This guy was reportedly arrested for his slaughtering methods. I’m no butcher, but I believe the commonly accepted method of slaughter is to swiftly break the bird’s neck to ensure the death is quick. According to the news article, he cut the bird’s necks and let them bleed out which counts as animal cruelty. A person would theoretically get arrested for doing this to their pet/feeder chickens as well.

  That’s how everyone kills chickens around here, you even have like a metal cone to keep them steady while you do it, I never had the heart to kill any animals but I’ve seen a lot of it.

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