It works wonderfully well as a search engine, when I have to find obscure specialized info. Can always criss check once I have a idea.
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CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
And nothing of value was lost.
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 6 hours ago
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Regular search engines did that 20 years ago, without blowing out the power grid.
SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
This is a bad faith argument. Search engines are notoriously bad to find rare specialized information and usually return empty search results for too specific requests. Moreover you need the exact keywords while LLMs use embeddings to find similar meanings
Chozo@fedia.io 2 hours ago
Search engines haven't worked reliably for several years now, the top results for almost any search are from social media pages that you can't even read without an account. The Internet is broken.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
No they didn’t and they still don’t really do that.
There are too many things (nowadays?) where you have to literally write a question on reddit, stack overflow or Lemmy or the likes and explain your situation in minute detail, because what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason.
Believe me, when I say that, because I always try search engines first, second and third, before even thinking of using some bs-spitting AI, but it really helped me with two very special problems in the last month.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason
Usually because the highest-rated solution is half-assed bullshit proposed by an overconfident newbie (or an LLM regurgitating it). I mainly use Stack Overflow as a way to become pissed off enough that I’ll go solve the problem myself, like I should have done in the first place. Indignation As A Service.
Zexks@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yeah then people.learned how to game it and its shit now. Pointing how something worked 20 years ago does shit all for how it works now
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
And LLM’s aren’t gamed? Like Grok constantly being tweaked to not say anything inconvenient about Musk? Or ChatGPT citing absurd Reddit posts deliberately made by users to make AI responses wrong?
AI is built from the ground up to do what they want, and they’re no better than those crappy info-scraper sites like wearethewindoezproz dot com that scrape basic info off every other site and offer it as a solution to your problem with [SOLVED] in the result title. “Did you turn it off and on again?”
cenzorrll@piefed.ca 3 hours ago
Ah, but you see, they don’t do it now.
Grimy@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
And now we have something better. I’m all for a better grid running on renewables though, which is the actual problem.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Because companies destroyed actual search engines in the race for billions of dollars.
Kagi, searx are fricken awesome and much like the web in mid 2000s before corporations destroyed it.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Its not a search engine, its a data digester. Dont use it as a search engine. Despite what alphabet, micro-shit, and DDG think, AI chatbots do not now, nor will they ever make good search engines.
This is a prime example of why access to these tools should be restricted to computer scientists and research labs. The average person doesn’t know how to use them effectively (resulting in enormous power wasted by ‘prompt engineering’), and the standard available models aren’t good at digesting non-linguistic data.
I’m not gonna downvote you, or be like all “AI is the devil and its gonna kill us all” but people need to use it correctly or agree going to kill ourselves with its waste heat.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
This is primarily because search engines have become so unreliable and enshittified that they are useless. It’s not a mark in favor of AI as much as a reminder of how bad search engines have become.
For the record I do the same thing after failing to find anything on DuckDuckGo after multiple attempts. Maybe I should give Kagi a try, but AI is making the entire internet worse, so I feel pessimistic about that, too.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
seriously! i used to use chatgpt all the damn time but then i got into claude and gemini. they are WAY better for code. now i got cursor pro and i use that for all my shit because it’s got the AI agents, the browser, the code editor, and the terminal
Krudler@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
What’s it like working in a field where you are completely incompetent?
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
i don’t work in the field. it’s a hobby. i’m a speech language pathologist. i have degrees from northestern university and UT austin
are you some kid in your parent’s basement?
Krudler@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What’s it like being an amateur that is so clueless you actually think you have any capacity to analyze what is good, better, best for coding?
Chozo@fedia.io 1 hour ago
Welcome to Lemmy, where everything is wrongthink.
pumpkin_spice@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
most developers don’t know how to use AI. you don’t know to use AI. no one here does. I do.
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’m not even into tech whatsoever, and find you insufferable.
Krompus@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
🤡
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
Well it’s going to put a damper on my Ansible “coding”.
You think I want to properly learn that piece of junk? It was obsolete and archaic before it was released, and it survives on naivete and churn cost and nothing else. There is no part of my time doing yaml for Ansible that I want to actually retain or build on, and without chatGPT to slop-in the changes I need to make, I may be forced to do it myself. And I lack the crayons now and alcohol for after.
Actually subjecting my brain to Ansible directly in real-time is a horror. It is just so fucking lame compared to everything else – it even pales compared to the DevOps we were doing in 2002 before it was even called that. Let my have my robots to slop the Ansible and save my sanity !
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
Ok, yaml is fair game for a LLM. Whitespace sensitive language should die in a fire, markup or otherwise.