Comment on Google Flat-Out Refuses to Bargain With Workers, Prompting YouTube Music Strike

kinther@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll use it as long as they keep it bundled with YouTube Premium. The day they unbundle I’m out.

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  • Sendbeer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, if you do a fair amount of YouTube and want to support the creators without queuing up a bunch of ads it’s a pretty good deal.

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• Nath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  $10 a month to have basically every song ever and never have to worry about YouTube ads. Yes, I use it.

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  • ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    hah, this was me with Grooveshark.

    and then I lost everything when it shut down.

    and then me again with Google play music. “upload your music, we’ll keep it for you”

    and then I lost everything when it shut down.

    “oh it’s ok, you can just use [new service], it’s better anyway”

    it just isn’t the same, you lose stuff everytime. I don’t think it’s worth it.

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    • trk@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      and then me again with Google play music. “upload your music, we’ll keep it for you”

      and then I lost everything when it shut down.

      There was a long period where you could transfer your GPM uploads to YTM.

      It worked perfectly for me - all my previously uploaded music is in my Library under “Uploads”.

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      • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You can still upload up to 100,000 tracks, I believe. Though I’ve not personally tried to do a bulk upload since before it changed from GPM.

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      • ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        yeah, it did not work for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Grooveshark. Now that’s a name that I really miss. I’ll never stop being mad about that site being taken down.

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      • ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        this hit me hard on multiple levels. There was a lot of live performances and remixes on Grooveshark that just don’t exist anymore.

        But, I also lived where they were headquartered. They had started a “Grooveshark university” for local programmers to learn the ropes and it was really cool. I was self-taught but learned a lot from that experience. Such a shame

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    • Elderos@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There’s apps to sync your stuff when you move to another platform. It won’t be perfectand certain features on certain apps are paywalled, but you should get a fairly acceptable copy of your content after using a service like this.

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      • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I used a tool that synced my Spotify playlists to Apple Music. It worked surprisingly well. I signed up the one time, moved everything over, and then made sure to cancel the service.

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    • jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are export options for many music subscription services now, as well as apps like TuneMyMusic, Playlisty, etc. which can transfer your library and services between services.

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  • maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right? It’s awesome.

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  • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I also get to Download videos for my flights or commute. I’m also in a big house. Family plan for 5 of us is ridiculous value to me.

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  • nodsocket@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Newpipe

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  • jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or $6 every 6 months if you’re savvy ;).

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    • Nath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If by “savvy”, you mean flubbing your location to somewhere in the developing world where that’s the price point, I refuse to do that. I have no issue pretending to be in say, Germany and taking up a 75% off deal. But I won’t put myself somewhere where the regular $10-$15 price point is genuinely out of range of the locals.

      If too many people fake their location to these places, the Googles and Steams of the world will stop giving those nations lower prices. I won’t have my own selfishness take something away from thousands of people.

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  • ilex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your mileage may vary coming up in December. The $10 crew in the US will see a 40% increase at or near the end of the year. Grandfathering is going away.

    This brings the cost of Google’s video/music service to match Amazon’s video/music service. Are those services of the same quality?

    Soundcloud ($10) Is the real competitor to YT-Music in my book. Both benefit from user-generated and user-uploaded content. While there is crossover, I have found more tracks on Soundcloud that aren’t on YT than the other way around.

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• trk@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  YouTube Music is a much better option than Spotify, in my opinion.

  On top of the music you get ad-free YouTube.

  Just make sure you use the unofficial YouTube Music desktop app (ytmdesktop.app) if you’re on a PC because using it in a browser sucks.

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  • jcit878@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    in theory i agree, but i could not stand the UI when i tried youtube premium, compared to spotify which is just seamless

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    • whereisk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not sure if you were referring to YT Music by YT Premium. But YT Music is a different interface specifically for music.

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      • jcit878@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think its the same thing here, you pay for premium it gives you access to YT music

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    • Asudox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Try InnerTune or ViMusic. They’re based on YouTube Music.

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• ShortFuse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  6 family members for $15 a month and no YouTube ads. Also that money was basically paid for by Google Rewards. The Web App is good too. I don’t have to deal with CEF/Electron or any install really.

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  • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think it’s 25 now :(

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  • Kethal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The Web site says $24 for 5 members. Is it different per location? How do you pay less?

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    • ShortFuse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, sorry that was bumped up recently. But that was the impetus for getting it back when it was just GPM.

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      • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        also pricing varies heavily by region. Family subscription is $6 and student is $2.50 where I live (Poland). But we also got 70% price cut when LJ introduced regional pricing for Sync ad-free

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• WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t use YouTube Music but I love using YouTube for my music. Tons of songs on there that just aren’t on either YouTube music or other services like Spotify.

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  • Xey@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can listen to just the music that’s on YouTube via YouTube music. That’s one of the main reasons why I’m using YouTube music.

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    • jayandp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah. You can search for and add any YouTube video to a playlist for YMusic. I do this all the time with various Indies, remixes, and foreign artists that are hard to find otherwise.

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    • JiraiyaIsNoLyah@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, I switch to YouTube music when Google Play music went away because that’s where I stored all of my music at. But The category is massive, especially for niche songs and you can choose to watch the video or just listen to the song, Also with a lot of the songs you can look at the lyrics in real time while the music’s playing and that’s kind of nice.

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    • WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Did they change it? The last time I tried it said a bunch of my songs weren’t available on YouTube music and I couldn’t use it cause of that.

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• RHSJack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Totally. I was already in the ecosystem so it was only natural I go to Music when it was available. Is it better than Spotify? Shrug. Just different.

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  • ilex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Spotify has invested significant $$ in upgrading their platform.

    YTM lets you access user-uploaded content. With that comes more in the way of remixes and Indy artists. The platform itself is pretty dogshit, though.

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• Dawn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For me, every other music app is missing alot of the songs I want to listen to (Cover songs, and remixes are the big 2) and they are only available on yt music.

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  • jayandp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same + foreign artists. Lots of J-Rock artists that are hard to find on Western music services, let alone other countries. Only stuff like K-Pop I can find consistently on Western music services just because of how in demand it is.

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  • ilex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Soundcloud might be an alternative worth looking into. For the music I tend to search for, I find I’m more likely to find it on Soundcloud, and it can take years to migrate from SC to YTM.

    While YTM and SC were both $10, putting up with the worse platform was a reasonable price for no YT ads. Now that the grandfathering is ending and the price is jumping to $14, for US folks, I’m feeling the pressure to migrate.

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    • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      isn’t SC pretty much only amateur rappers nowadays?

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      • ilex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well, its most of the normal music and then a bunch of pirated music. It’s like YT music but with a better “Start Radio” button.

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• CrayonRosary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes, and it’s great!

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• regbin_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Only because I get both YT Premium and YT Music for cheap ($4/month).

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  • salton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hah look at Mr. Money Bags over here, I had to $1.11 last month for YT Premium.

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    • jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. India?

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      • salton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Argentina

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    • Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which region did you sign up in?

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      • salton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Argentina

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• Companion1666@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  YouTube Premium is so cheap, man. ₱159 (close to $3) per month.

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• mojo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, I just don’t pay for it lmao. Apps like InnerTune are great, rips them as mp3s and can use YouTube music radio system and lyrics.

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• reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Revanced, yeah. Still sucks when you’re looking for an album and all of the songs are from the official channel except for one that some schlub uploaded which repeats the previous track as an intro, has the levels maxed across all channels and sounds like it was recorded with a USB lapel mic in a paper bag

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• nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I do because I pay next to nothing for a family membership, I can access covers from YT and it works with Android Auto which my father needs (otherwise I would simply use Revanced). Also could never learn Spotify, it’s so counter-intuitive to me

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• Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah it’s pretty good

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• ZMonster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, ReVanced, but yes. No way I’d pay for that shit.

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• dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ever since Google destroyed Google Music i switched to Spottily because at the time YouTube music couldn’t tell the difference between memes and music plus alot of my playlist was unavailable

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