That should be my next post! 😂 My inner monologue is like words on a page. And again, I can’t see how one could enjoy a novel with the monologue and mind’s eye.
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the_q@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You guys are gonna lose your shit when you find out some people don’t have an inner monologue.
shalafi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
This one I find difficult to comprehend.
My inner monologue is petty much my entire thought process. How does one think and rationalise without one?
alternategait@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m a 5 on this scale (maybe a 4 if I’m distracted, processing other stuff) and I have a big component of kinesthetic sense and some emotional tone comes into play. It actually often takes work for me to turn ideas into words. This gets harder if I’m tired or sick or something.
absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
I am a 5 on this scale, and for all other senses. No smell, sound, touch or taste either.
So yea; it when I say my inner monologue is pretty much my whole thought process.
It totally blew my mind; when I realized others could see actual images in their heads.
The no inner monologue thing still boggles me. Considering my point of view; where it is all of my inner self.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“Picture in your mind”…
Me, a 5 on the scale, young: Weird turn of phrase, but okay. I have the… idea of an apple.
Me, still a 5 on the scale but now an adult, in about 2023, learning about aphantasia and that other people were being literal about mind’s eye: WHAT.
nailbar@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
My inner monologue even reacted to your comment when I read it 😅
Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Tomorrow is chores.
Glide@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
What the fuck do you mean some people don’t have an inner monologue. How do they… Think thoughts? I literally cannot comprehend how they work through thoughts.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m convinced lots of people actually don’t think
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
The proper way humans are supposed to think is with Critical Thinking Skills. It used to be taught in schools, often in English classes. Remember being taught how to write an essay from the General concept to down to the specific point? That was teaching Critical Thinking Skills, learning how to craft a coherent argument.
Today, many states actively discourage the teaching of Critical Thinking Skills. Republicans in particular hate it. About a decade ago, the Texas Republican Party even included opposition to Critical Thinking Skills in their state platform, claiming that it taught children to defy authority figures. No it doesn’t, it just teaches them when those authority figures are trying to exploit them. They actually tried to position Critical Thinking Skills as detrimental to childhood education.
If you don’t develop Critical Thinking Skills, you will substitute orderly thinking with a sort of ad hoc, improvisatory, chaotic thinking, which is easy for someone with a nefarious agenda to tap into and manipulate. Those with good Critical Thinking Skills learn to recognize and resist things like propaganda.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Literally everyone does this tho. It only feels like everyone else because you can’t be aware of when you’re not thinking.
saimen@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
No, having kids now I am sometimes super tired only being able to function for the daily activities without much planning and thinking about others. This made me realize this state (or even worse) is probably normal for a lot of people.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Vibes or visuals
saimen@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Vibe thinking?
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
How the fuck would you function without an inner monologue AND aphantasia…
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know, that’s hard to imagine
Hugin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s me. Best way I can describe it is like a word cloud but no text or dialog. A bunch of concepts with varying importance and strength of connections.
rhombus@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Probably different for everyone, but I have neither and sometimes feel almost compelled to speak my thoughts out loud. If I don’t speak them they’re just kind of abstract feelings or impressions.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
My mom had a stroke that was caught early, and she was this way in the first couple years afterwards. I had to ask her to stop talking to me so I could read a menu, and she was self-aware about it. She was like “I’m sorry. Just tell me. I just have to speak my thoughts into existence these days.”
rhombus@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s interesting to hear about someone having a similar experience due to a brain injury. I have always wondered if my inability to internalize thoughts was some kind of developmental thing; if I don’t speak them or write them down then they’re really scattered and sorta incoherent.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
My best guess: sometimes, one idea flows to the next in my head without the words. Usually I “feel” sentences falling into place at least a few words ahead of what I’m saying, at least kind of. But sometimes I just sort of talk, without the inner mo ologue, and it’s mildly confusing. Like, who the hell is building the sentences if it’s not me? And why does what’s coming out of my mouth totally agree with what I would be saying if I could build the words right now?
Basically, sometimes the place that ACTUALLY assembles the words bypasses the self-awareness layer, and the words just come out.
I imagine this is somewhat analogous to the people with no inner monologue; there are still thoughts, they just don’t take the form of words. Pictures, concepts, or even other things that make less intuitive sense to those of us with inner monologues.
Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m a word-er, but I think hank green explained it pretty well in a video. Language is just an I/O bus, thoughts occur as a set of abstractions with associations.
Noved@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yeah I’m calling bullshit on this one haha, op is implying some people cannot process word if not spoken or written. That would be so unbelievably disabling you probably couldn’t function in society.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It’s not that they don’t process words, it’s that those without internal monologues may think in concepts, images, or visualized actions rather than using the words those concepts are attached to. As an example, some deaf people if they have an internalized monologue have reported their monologue being visualized sign language, instead of audible speech spoken in their head.
Simon Roper does a couple really excellent videos on this subject, if you’d like to hear a very eloquent first hand experience of someone else’s non-monologue internal thoughts.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Easily we just do. It’s like breathing. We just do it.
Can you explain how you breath? Or beat your heart? Or create blood?
That’s how we do.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Is there anyone who can’t (partially) control their breath?