I guess it’s just doesn’t make sense to obfuscate it when mods in general runs the Minecraft community in turn making more profit to Mojang/Microsoft. My other suspension is potential competition. There is this game called Vintage Story which kinda directly competes with Minecraft seems gaining ground and was built to be moddable from the start.
Comment on Minecraft is removing code obfuscation in Java Edition
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
So, what’s the catch? Surely Microsoft and Mojang didn’t just suddenly become good?
wabafee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Exactly. Community bindings do exist and are used over the official bindings already, and I think the source code obfuscation is just an annoyance by now.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Havent they been making changes to help mod/datapack development?
Modding is such a big part of the game, helping it would get more people playing the game
SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
They made “datapack” which is a way of playing with mods without having to use third-party mod loaders like Forge and Fabric but (don’t quote me on this as I’m not a mod developer) it’s not as powerful compare to the mod loaders.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yup. Mods can change basically EVERYTHING, compared to datapacks being able to change only what mojang wants.
Xylight@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Not sure if it’s just what they want, it’s mostly that Minecraft’s spaghetti code had a lot of things hardcoded. Lately they’ve been changing a lot of things to be data-driven, and able to be changed by datapacks
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wonder how good AI is at deobfuscating code. It seems like the kind of thing it might be good at.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
With how bad it is at writing it, I’m guessing similarly bad. It’ll do something, but odds are it introduces a ton of errors that you then have to track down. That’s the best case. Worst case, it just creates something totally different that looks similar to the input but doesn’t do the same thing.
barryamelton@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Luanti eating on their turf.
simple@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I doubt microsoft even knows what luanti is
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 weeks ago
Whats that?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s the platform that used to be Mine test, apparently
pipe01@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Lol no
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I said basically the same thing and got downvoted for it.
Hopefully the catch is nothing, but you can never be too sure.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s a 20 year old game going into abandonware mode. This is the nicest way for them to do that.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
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Its 16, not 20, the earliest version “Cave Game Tech Test” was in May 2009.
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They’re still actively pushing updates, a really big one is scheduled for the holiday season. Additional biomes and mini-bosses were added last year with structures hinting at development plans for a 4th dimension. The lighting engine is being actively redone.
Minecraft is absolutely not gearing down into abandonware mode.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And they finally added copper items 😂
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kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
I would advance: trying to keep the brand alive against the hidden giant of Roblox.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The monkeypaw says they will stop updates for the java edition or release a new version that doesn’t work on the java edition.
They probably see how many sales are generated from the free work done by modders though. If someone wants to come along and do for free the thing you might have to actually pay designers, developers, artists and all the support staff for and they still need to pay you to play it, you’d be foolish not to encourage the exploitation of free labor.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Call me ignorant, if this happened and it brought a new golden era of modding (1.7.10) style golden era where everyone’s playing the same version I’d be maybe the happiest player ever.
Modders backporting content wouldn’t be nothing new, hell, they even brought the mobs that didn’t make the cut from those stupid mob votes to life. Let modding become the new updates, fuck it.
CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Y’all can try and pull it from my cold, dead hands.
I should boot up the ol modpack and see what it do—oh, right, it crashes 🥹
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Young generations and mobile players are on bedrock
Everyone else plays Java where you can easily self-host a server
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Or a Bethesda style creation club is coming.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
They already do that for bedrock.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Complete with microtransactions and a horrible lack of customizability! Seriously I just wanted to play some Minecraft in RTX but you literally can’t use the nVidia RTX stuff outside of the demo maps, otherwise you have to purchase a different texture pack with real money. And basically everything in the Bedrock Marketplace costs real money, and very little is free.
Meanwhile Java edition doesn’t have any paid content in part because the original Minecraft license specified anyone was free to make mods and custom content but were explicitly restricted from charging money for it
ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I was thinking the same thing. If the de-obfuscation tools are already out there, it might cost them more money to keep that layer. Their developers also have to use it to read the crash logs and the like from the sounds of it. Less layers = less maintenance = less cost. More mods = keeps the game relevant.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
If that happens, the modding scene would boom incredibly
And you’d have some smart nerds who take it upon them to keep updating the game much better than Mojang ever could.
It would become open source almost