Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy? lol
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dukemirage@lemmy.world 11 hours ago[deleted]
teft@piefed.social 8 hours ago
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy?
those tall ships are not cheap, and have you seen the price of parrots?
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
To be fair, if they are talking about digitizing your own library, yes, it can take a lot of time. When I attempted it, each DVD took about a half hour to 45 minutes to rip. I flat out didn’t have that kind of time with the size of my collection. It is way easier, although riskier, to download.
binarytobis@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I think downloading movies you already own is legal, though I could be misremembering.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
I did it in a few weeks. I basically swapped discs while playing games, before going to work, before bed, etc. It was tedious, but I got them all.
Now when I buy one, I’ll rip it first before watching.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Fun fact, in some countries like mine, downloading is completely legal, it’s the uploading back or seeding that’s illegal.
foster@lemmy.hangdaan.com 10 hours ago
What’s even funnier are the people who spend lots of money on subscription services to own nothing. This outage just demonstrates who really owns their purchases.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
[deleted]foster@lemmy.hangdaan.com 9 hours ago
It IS a scam since a lot of subscription services do not make it clear that the buyer is only granted limited access, and not ownership of the product.
Just last year, due to legal reasons, Steam placed a notice on their cart page stating that purchases only grant a license—much to the surprise of some Steam users. Steam has been around for 20+ years, and it took a piece of legislation to force the company to inform their buyers of this very important fact. It is clear that they would rather have misinformed customers, much like in a scam.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
uh…all software is like that. Has been for decades, you don’t actually own shit, even if you bought the discs.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Tell that to all the people who’ve purchased digital copies of movies and TV to own only to have these companies later pull those licenses and leave them with nothing.
SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
streaming service: 15-20€ per month per service me: vpn 5€ and a cheap hard drive
i’d be poorer with subscribing
dukemirage@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
[deleted]SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
Flisty@mstdn.social 9 hours ago
@CmdrShepard49 @dukemirage If ten people want to store or listen to the same original album at the same time then the creator gets to sell ten copies. Then they might hand them on, but ten copies are still out there. Maybe an eleventh person wants one but they're all in use - they're going to have to go back to the creator and buy a new one. If someone pirates one copy and gives it to nine people for them all to have at the same time then the creator only sells one copy, forever.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
Just let us be excited
This is our version when there’s a big storm and your neighbourhood dads start going around with chainsaws offering to cut up downed trees.
Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
So, in the US, a standalone, bare-minimum with ads included Disney+ subscription costs $9.99. Oops, actually we’re raising it to $11.99 TOMORROW! So after a paying for a year of Dinsey’s cheapest plan, you’d have paid $144.
But maybe Disney isn’t your thing? Well. Netflix costs $7.99 for the ad plan, and $17.99 for the no ads plan. But do note, even on the ad supported plan, you STILL can’t watch everything.
Ad-supported, all mobile games and most movies and TV shows are available. A lock icon will appear on unavailable titles.
Ranges $96-216 per year for ads or no ads.
Like anime? Crunchyroll offers a $7.99 plan, but it might not have all the content, so then there’s the $11.99 plan. So $96-144 per year. But their catalog doesn’t even have every fucking anime, and they’ve let dubbing go to the wayside after buying out their main competitor, Funimation (in which we lost several anime due to licensing).
Listen to music on top of that? Spotify for non-students ($5.99) costs $11.99, so $144 in a year. YT music is $10.99 for non-students, so $132
So say you listen to Spotify, like anime, and watch Netflix, you’re paying at minimum $336 per year, on the cheapest plans available, which usually have ads or missing features.
I’ve been looking at Optiplex and Lenovo ThinkCentres on ebay recently, and for my bare minimum standards of 1. Can support virtualization, 2. Can do Intel quick sync video and encode HEVC 10-bit (So about 10 year old devices) the prices range around $90-$150. Some 2TB HDDs would be about $100. You’d probably be pirating since most of the new shows on streaming services have no physical media to buy/no way of just owning a movie or TV box set. Even then, outright buying music and movies is cheaper in the long run. Anything you already own can be added to your library. You’ll never be told that “oops we didn’t pay to re-up our access to that movie, so it’s gone!” You’ll never have new ads, paywalled features, limited devices, or other bullshit. The server is up whenever you want it to be, provided you can handle being tech support.
So in the end, a home server + drives costs less than paying for several services where you own shit, and they can cut features or raise the price any day. But yes, we’re just being conceited assholes.
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
lmao, buddy you can get a 10tb hard drive for like $200 and fit all the pirated media you want on it. that’s less money than two mainline subscriptions for a year.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
conceited
1981 wants it’s term back.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
I’m not a native speaker.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
You know you can setup a stack for piracy in less than 10min on a $40 microcomputer or even on an old android phone. And with the right setup you can automate the downloads meaning you just search for stuff and it downloads it without effort.
Time and money, not so much.
Checkout YAMS
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 8 hours ago
It’s ok to be jealous, it’s a normal emotion.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 15 minutes ago
It‘s ok to want to insult. I don’t have a media server full of digital crap and I don’t pay for a subscription. I simply go to the cinema.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
yep!
mlg@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Dawg even pirate stream sites don’t host on AWS and GCP, you can still watch your content for free online without worrying about a cloud outage because pirate sites actually distribute their files on several cloud platforms since they’re technically always at risk of DMCA lol.
Scavenger8294@feddit.org 7 hours ago
old server + 12 tb block acc. Costs like 15 cans of coke
remon@ani.social 11 hours ago
I don’t wanna say I told you so, but …
Damage@feddit.it 9 hours ago
Yeah I mean, give us this one satisfaction!
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I think they were just pointing out that this is the problem with subscription services. You own nothing and you’re screwed when the service goes down.
It really doesn’t take “ludicrous amounts of time and money” to build a private library. It’s interesting how the subscription giants have managed to change people’s perceptions - when you buy content to keep, you keep some of the value, but when you subscribe you’re just getting a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again.
They sold the proposition on convenience when everything was in one place, but not it’s all fragmented it’s a waste of money.
And of course plenty of people are building media libraries for free by sailing the seas.
Flisty@mstdn.social 11 hours ago
@BananaTrifleViolin @dukemirage a huge proportion of the stuff people watch on Netflix/listen to on Spotify is really old media you could get second hand on CD/DVD for pennies. I mean how much is a Friends box set going for nowadays
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 8 hours ago
Interestingly enough, cheaper on bluray at about ~$70 than on DVD at around $120.
Though cheaper still would be a yard sale, the library, or the high seas.
heyitsmikey128@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
That’s because the DVDs have extended scenes and they have been lost since and are only available on DVD
dukemirage@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 hours ago
Except it didn’t matter if Blockbuster’s headquarters had a power outage since tour physical VHS from them worked fine where ever you were. Pretty much every major web service uses AWS, so if AWS goes down, so does the Internet.
datavoid@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Didn’t you mention ludicrous amounts of money?