Is it okay for DHH to express his unhappiness that London is no longer mostly White British?
No. Dude is a racist baby. It’s also the transphobia and support for open fascists.
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moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 22 hours agoIs it okay for DHH to express his unhappiness that London is no longer mostly White British? He said "I thought I might move there one day… Now, I wouldn’t dream of it. London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of native Brits.
Let’s say a lot of white people move to a previously black area. This causes a prominent person to write a blog saying “I thought I might move there one day… Now, I wouldn’t dream of it. It’s no longer the place I was infatuated with. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of black residents.” That would be racist wouldn’t it?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 16 hours ago
Let’s not say that reverse racism is a real thing, because that’s an imaginary racist trope.
My view is that racism can happen to any ethnicity: black, brown, white, anybody. It depends on the situation. If a business run entirely by white people disallows entry to a black person because they’re black, that’s racist, but if the races were reversed (a business run entirely by black people disallows entry to a white person because they’re white), I’d say that’s also racist. In fact if I end up talking to a white person about racism I might deliberately give them an example of a situation where a white person could experience racial discrimination, because that might make them think “fair point, I would dislike it if someone was racist to me, so maybe racism is a bad thing”.
Greg@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Why do you assume that a Danish person talking about “native Brits” means “white”?
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Firstly because when he says London is “no longer full of native Brits” he links to a Wikipedia page about ethnic groups in London. So he seems to be talking about ethnicity. Secondly, he says that these “native Brits” are now “about a third” of London. Looking at the Wikipedia page he linked to, the stats show that white Brits were 37% of London according to the 2021 census, which is about a third. It seems to me that’s probably what he’s talking about.
If “native Brits” just meant people born in the UK, or people with a British passport, then those figures are higher: 59% and 77% of London respectively (that page says that “In 2021, more than 4 in 10 (40.6%) usual residents in London were non-UK born, and more than 1 in 5 (23.3%) had a non-UK passport”).
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
When you start quoting “stats” about “white brits”, you’re only taking your mask off.
Lembot_0004@discuss.online 22 hours ago
Yes, it is ok. Different people have different tastes in cultural, social, etc neighborhoods. This guy prefers classical British culture. See no wrong here.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
He doesn’t seem to be talking about culture. He didn’t say something like “London has fewer pubs than it used to”. Instead he seems to be referring specifically to ethnicity. His interest in London seems to be reduced because more non-white people now live in London.
Lembot_0004@discuss.online 22 hours ago
Ethnicity is linked to culture in a very straightforward and obvious way. You’re just making drama here.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
Ethnicity and culture are different. A person can choose to adopt whatever culture they want regardless of their ethnicity. Also if you said something like “I don’t want that particular ethnicity to move to my neighbourhood due to their culture” then I think that’s probably racist. I think it’s fine to object to certain cultural aspects as long as you don’t tie it to ethnicity though. E.g. if you said “I object to a cultural practice of treating women worse than men” then I think that’s okay.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
Damn man, you are really bending over backward to defend this guy… do you owe him money or something?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
The King of England is ethnicly German.
davidagain@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
You’re just making drama here.
…says the racist troll making as much drama as they can manage.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
^ mental gymnastics olympian trying to defend over racism.
TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Classical British culture? London in the 90s?
Lol
jonathan@piefed.social 22 hours ago
I’m not sure it’s worth engaging with the kind of person who uses SJW as a pejorative.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
I’m just interested to see what the other side of the argument might be. Sometimes you might very strongly disagree with other people’s views, or even be disgusted by those views, but you might still want to find out what those views are.
andyburke@fedia.io 20 hours ago
Sure, just know that this feedback is coming from people who have probably walked the same path and are trying to save you some pain. Best of luck, but I have found people like that are not engaging in good faith.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Sure, but if they’re using SJW as a pejorative, you already know what their (disgusting) views are. I have yet to meet one of these people who didn’t fall into a rather specific shitty box when it comes to certain viewpoints.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Especially nowadays, long after “SJW” stopped being commonly used. If they’re still holding on to a 2016 “anti-SJW everyone’s so offended!!” mentality, they’re probably not worth engaging with. Just shows they never matured past that point.