Comment on Ruby Central tries to make peace after 'hostile takeover'

Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is it okay for DHH to express his unhappiness that London is no longer mostly White British? He said "I thought I might move there one day… Now, I wouldn’t dream of it. London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of native Brits.

  Let’s say a lot of white people move to a previously black area. This causes a prominent person to write a blog saying “I thought I might move there one day… Now, I wouldn’t dream of it. It’s no longer the place I was infatuated with. Chiefly because it’s no longer full of black residents.” That would be racist wouldn’t it?

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  • jonathan@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not sure it’s worth engaging with the kind of person who uses SJW as a pejorative.

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    • moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m just interested to see what the other side of the argument might be. Sometimes you might very strongly disagree with other people’s views, or even be disgusted by those views, but you might still want to find out what those views are.

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      • andyburke@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure, just know that this feedback is coming from people who have probably walked the same path and are trying to save you some pain. Best of luck, but I have found people like that are not engaging in good faith.

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sometimes you might very strongly disagree with other people’s views, or even be disgusted by those views, but you might still want to find out what those views are.

        Sure, but if they’re using SJW as a pejorative, you already know what their (disgusting) views are. I have yet to meet one of these people who didn’t fall into a rather specific shitty box when it comes to certain viewpoints.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is it okay for DHH to express his unhappiness that London is no longer mostly White British?

    No. Dude is a racist baby. It’s also the transphobia and support for open fascists.

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    • moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Let’s not say that reverse racism is a real thing, because that’s an imaginary racist trope.

      My view is that racism can happen to any ethnicity: black, brown, white, anybody. It depends on the situation. If a business run entirely by white people disallows entry to a black person because they’re black, that’s racist, but if the races were reversed (a business run entirely by black people disallows entry to a white person because they’re white), I’d say that’s also racist. In fact if I end up talking to a white person about racism I might deliberately give them an example of a situation where a white person could experience racial discrimination, because that might make them think “fair point, I would dislike it if someone was racist to me, so maybe racism is a bad thing”.

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  • Greg@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why do you assume that a Danish person talking about “native Brits” means “white”?

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    • moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Firstly because when he says London is “no longer full of native Brits” he links to a Wikipedia page about ethnic groups in London. So he seems to be talking about ethnicity. Secondly, he says that these “native Brits” are now “about a third” of London. Looking at the Wikipedia page he linked to, the stats show that white Brits were 37% of London according to the 2021 census, which is about a third. It seems to me that’s probably what he’s talking about.

      If “native Brits” just meant people born in the UK, or people with a British passport, then those figures are higher: 59% and 77% of London respectively (that page says that “In 2021, more than 4 in 10 (40.6%) usual residents in London were non-UK born, and more than 1 in 5 (23.3%) had a non-UK passport”).

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      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        When you start quoting “stats” about “white brits”, you’re only taking your mask off.

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  • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, it is ok. Different people have different tastes in cultural, social, etc neighborhoods. This guy prefers classical British culture. See no wrong here.

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    • moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He doesn’t seem to be talking about culture. He didn’t say something like “London has fewer pubs than it used to”. Instead he seems to be referring specifically to ethnicity. His interest in London seems to be reduced because more non-white people now live in London.

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      • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ethnicity is linked to culture in a very straightforward and obvious way. You’re just making drama here.

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      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ^ mental gymnastics olympian trying to defend over racism.

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    • TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Classical British culture? London in the 90s?

      Lol

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• expr@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  SJWs

  2012 called, they want their “insult” back.

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  • thepompe@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry your fad is over and people are getting sick of the nonsense.

    It’s time to grow up.

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• deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes, self-organization without the distorting effects of corporations, massive grants, or quasi-celebrities is best for most groups.

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• thepompe@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah, this is all grandstanding to control what people get to say.

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