Comment on We don't use the word 'fascist' because we wish harm on anybody. We use it because words mean things.

• uniquethrowagay@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist though. The party wasn’t called Nazi, the members were.

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• BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨55⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  What do you call people who wear red and black swastikas and say heil Hitler while doing a salute typical of the Nazi party?

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  • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨26⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Romans?

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• Humana@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America…

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If the situation were flipped, and Hitler was rising to power ~80 years after we had a massive war to take out MAGA fascists, then yeah I think people would refer to them as “MAGA”, at least at first.

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  • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nazi doesn’t mean national socialist, as I said it’s literally just the first 4 letters, a shorthand a nickname, American version for Republicans would be Repu/Repus.

    Lots of people I have seen that think it’s Nazi because the Sozialistische has the Zi, it’s nonsense, Nazional is how germans pronounce National, hence it’s shortened to Nazi.

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    • MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      IMO it’s more offensive to call MAGAs a Nazi. And I’m certainly looking for maximum effect. I couldn’t care less about the etymology of Nazi.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nazi doesn’t mean national socialist

      Ridiculously pedantic. Come on.

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean, so was my first comment, not sure what you expected 😃

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    • causepix@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How about nationalist?

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    • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I call them Repubs at this point because they don’t want to say things like “Democratic politicians” opting instead for “Democrat politicians” because they’re worried democratic sounds too good.

      I think republican sounds too good. They don’t want a republic, they want a tyrant.

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      • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So, tyrannist? Hmm that’s not catchy. Maybe just autocrat but that doesn’t contain the root of the word tyrannus. Best I got for ya.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

  It’s semantics. The German and American fascists all pull from the same ideological and rhetorical playbook.

  Veneration of the national security state. Zealous religious orthodoxy. Obsession with loyalty oaths and ethnicity sorting. Reflexive xenophobia. Institutionalized quackery.

  It’s all the same shit. Same as Apartheid Africa. Same as Kuomanting China. Same as Pinochet’s Chile and Milei’s Argentina.

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