There’s a similar app for Android.
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Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Does anyone remember how the Devs from there didnt want to release for Android because ApPlE iS sOoOo mUcH mOoOrE sEcUrE
Get rekt.
modus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Same problems
Not open source for once
rumba@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Needs to be a website, would be best on i2p, but i fear no one would be able to figure out how to get to it.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
You can use a I2P proxy for access via the clearnet. Additionally, many people can set up I2P proxies that can only being used to access that site. Take one down, there’s a bajillion others to choose.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In terms of security alone, iPhones easily beat most Android phones. Which may be a fair argument in favor of iPhones. However, to ignore Apple’s policies and long history of delisting similar apps is delusional.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In regards to security, Apple does have three upsides, and only those:
The solution for the first one is “don’t sideload untrusted stuff” and the solution to the second and third one is “buy an Android phone from a trusted manufacturer that has long term OS support”.
Taldan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a simple configuration change to disable it and can be done with any corporate MDM system, making this a moot point. Not to mention too many people don’t understand security, so Android is taking away sideloading anyway, FoR sEcUriTY
The vast majority of Android phones do not come with root access. For both, you generally have to elevate access yourself
If you’re running an out-of-date OS, clearly security is not a priority
Supply chain attacks absolutely can happen to iPhones as well. There are plenty of re-sellers
You missed the actual security benefit over iOS that Android cannot compete with: Apple controls the entire software chain from security patch to OTA update. This allows them to patch and release a fix for critical vulnerabilities far faster than any Android device possibly could. Apple does not need to get the approval of an OEM (such as Samsung), and, due to special deals, they do not need to get the approval of a carrier (like Verizon). Android devices typically need to get approvals from both before releasing updates (although Google flagship phones can bypass one, and can fast track the other)
The downside there is there are no checks on Apple. They could release a horribly vulnerable patch with no additional checks in-between
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You don’t seem to get my point and seem to think that I’m some apple fanboy that you need to convince or win against.
I use android, I’ve never used iOS. I enjoy the freedom of sideloading. Still it is a fact that the overwhelming majority of malware infections on Android happen due to side loading. The percentage of devices running corporate MDM is tiny, making this a moot point.
And yet quite a few devices in the wild run rooted or custom ROMs.
You seem to forget what this thread is about. It’s not about personal security and whether one can run a safe android device, but about an app developer not providing an Android version, because the platform as a whole (meaning the average user) is less secure.
Personal preferences like paying for a new, non-outdated phone don’t really matter for that big picture view.
That’s a strange argument. Getting malware that survives a factory reset onto an iPhone without apple’s approval is close to impossible. Making an Android phone from scratch that contains malware right in the system image has been done over and over again. You are argueing a hypothetical versus something that happens every day.
liuther9@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Long os support meant to intentionally brick your iphone so you buy new. That is 100% true as I had many apple products started degrading after upgrade and still have old models that are not upgraded and work perfectly
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not defending apple here. Short OS support (or none at all) is not a good thing, and it’s something that’s sadly still quite common if you buy the wrong Android brand.
Samsung is doing pretty well in that regard right now.
sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 3 weeks ago
Always funny watching apple users think they know something.
nialv7@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You say that based on what?
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Based on most smartphones being very insecure. Of course, iPhones aren’t extremely secure, but the competition is practically nonexistent. Pretty much the only secure Android phones are Pixels. Samsung is considered one of the more secure manufacturers too, but according to GrapheneOS devs it’s still way behind Google.
Note that even police and government agencies sometimes have trouble getting into iPhones. They never have such troubles getting into Android smartphones, except Pixels.
This is by no means meant to advertise iPhones. It’s just a simple observation that security in smartphones is heavily lacking.
Reygle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So based on marketing.
Potatar@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dude give one example so we can google and have our own opinion. You are just saying “because they said so/because someone considered it so”.
Taldan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Both iPhones and Android phones can be configured to your desired security level. Both are used by various government agencies around the world for their most important secrets. Neither are secure out of the box. You have to harden them to your desired level of security
Arguing whether Android or iOS is more secure is a bit like arguing whether an SUV or pickup is safer. It doesn’t matter which you pick when basic security steps are magnitudes more important: Wearing a safety belt, having a functioning air bag, driving a safe speed, not driving drunk, etc.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
You fell for the propaganda marketed as truth.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Schizophrenia
Taldan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s not how security works in the modern tech landscape. No major OS is going to meet a high security standard out of the box. All of them have to be configured to the desired security level, then be added to ongoing security efforts. Every major OS can be secured to the highest security standards
The primary difference is how much effort each takes, but even then there isn’t much of a difference. You’ll find tooling and in-house expertise makes a much larger difference than the OS
The myth that some OS are inherently secure really needs to die off
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Has Android added E2EE to their cloud backups yet like Apple has?
Apple is no friend to any of us, but Google openly and shamelessly scrapes every piece of data you put on their phones. Apple is absolutely the lesser of these two evils with out of the box functionality. Like an Android can be more secure and private than an IPhone, but afaik that involves owning a Pixel specifically and installing an entirely different OS on it, one that Google a Is also out to get.
Xatolos@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
You do know that Apple privately scrapes every piece of data you put on their phones right? Go read the privacy and ad policies. Apple also gives access to a lot of their users private information (China has full access to its users iCloud), will remove apps like this (while Google still allows apps that block ad trackers like DuckDuckGo that block Google own trackers). And Google supports CSE.
We get it from your post, your a huge and blind Apple fan that wants to do anything you can to confuse others into believing falsely like you that Apple is somehow a great company and product. But the truth is, Apple doesn’t care about your privacy, lies to your face about it, and makes you less secure and your information less private as these situations show. And if you were in cybersecurity, you’d know this.