Comment on Unity boycott begins as devs switch off ads to force a Runtime Fee reversal - Mobilegamer.biz

• deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re going to try this bullshit again, or in another manner. Maybe having everything centralized onto a proprietary single point of failure isn’t a great idea.

  Cutting ties and moving on is the right answer.

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No one wants this situation, but the reality is that you can not switch from one engine to another engine without rebuilding the product. This is true for every game development company on the planet, this is how the industry is.

    we can sit and laugh at that and call them stupid for building an entire multi-billion dollar industry on this, or we can understand the realities of the whole thing.

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    • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The reality is they’ve shown their hand.

      Why anyone would continue to do business with them is insane to me. You’re setting yourself up for future failure.

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why anyone would continue to do business with them is insane to me.

        1. you have a mature stack built entirely on the engine, that stacks the only thing that powers your companies revenue, if that stack did not exist then you would fold quickly
        2. you probably have an entire company of experts in this engine, an deep knowledge-base that you are throwing away if you move away, your ability to have speed and agility is likely crippled until you get up to speed anywhere else. good luck affording to pay for that monumental shift in your company. 3, almost all the talent in the industry (at your level) is on unity engine, good luck hiring for $obscure_engine

        basically, it’s incredibly naive to just say “just switch, obviously they are bad, they will be bad in the future too so switch”. it shows deep ignorance. it’s worth trying to understand the situation before saying any of this stuff.

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    • tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The fact that it’s impossible to change game on an ongoing/completed game is exactly the reason why everyone is angry. This is distortion, simple, just like the example of car being charged for miles mentioned in the article. It’s no coincidence that games are advertised as “built on …” since game engine decides how the game is built.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think the word you’re looking for is “extortion”.

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The thing is that switching engines isn’t impossible, it is just an extreme amount of work.

        The sad reality is that sometimes projects aren’t meant to last, most don’t even reach fruition. And I know it can be a hard pill to swallow, but it is sometimes necessary to rebuild an entire project, or drop it completely.

        Whether that necessity is valid depends entirely on the developer.

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  • StarServal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Oops, we ratcheted up the heat too fast. We’ll need to do it again slower.”

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• Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Every company I worked in always had a plan B.

  Being fully under the whims of a service is how companies die. And unity is going to put a financial stranglehold on so many businesses. So really if they aren’t planning to cut ties, they won’t survive in a few years.

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve felt this same way about content creators complaining about YouTube. It’s far too risky to develop your life plan around a particular company continuing their service.

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    • DrPop@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Most channels have a patreon because of that reason. Better to have the fans support you than whatever new monetization model YouTube comes up with. (No bad words in the first minute, reviewers have to play movies flipped so they won’t be copyright struck, ads can do whatever they want but if you make a video talking about said ads only using those ads you guessed it demonetized). Google (alphabet)is an empire at this point and we need the government to create a new branch of government to handle online businesses because our 80+ year old representatives came understand that Mark Zuckerberg has nothing to do with iPhones.

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• Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Rip the band aid now. Stop all development in unity. Unity has shown that it’s obsolete.

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  • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who’s going to pay salary for the year plus of retooling and retraining? You?

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Who’s going to pay the new fees imposed by unity?

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      • AngryMob@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The company making enough money to trigger said fees?

        I dont support this new structure, but its not like these fees are attacking game companies which have no profits

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      • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The companies will if they choose to, it’ll be a massive hit it’ll stop them coming to subscription services, it’ll stop them coming to cloud services, it’ll stop demos and free weekends, it’ll probably hinder experimentation and early access. But the companies can eak out a way of surviving.

        Which they can’t without revenue because they downed tools for a few years to retool on something entirely new

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