Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared

moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s entirely possible it’s a spectacularly successful trolling mission by one person.

  Seriously, look how many people are up in arms about an instance with one user.

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  • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah and why the big deal? I didn’t notice any signs saying the fediverse is only for lefties. I may not agree with conservatives but that doesn’t mean I think they should be excluded.

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    • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      People don’t want to federate with MAGA-themed instances.

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    • Taalnazi@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Bad faith answer, though. MAGA cunts aren’t “conservatives”, they are outright fascists.

      If you want conservative, you’d have to look at people who just want the status quo. In other words, the more milquetoast Christian democrats.

      The fediverse is only for people who aren’t batshit insane. In other words, not for fascists and transphobes.

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      • LwL@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The good thing is that all sane instances can just defederate and we won’t have to deal with them. They can use the software all they want, and we can shut them out from our spaces all we want.

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      • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        MAGA cunts aren’t “conservatives”, they are outright fascists.

        Conservatism IS fascism, with “nicer words”… Until they seize power, then the nice words stop.

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Maga is conservatism. Stop trying to separate the two, they are the same fucking thing.

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      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah I guess I failed to distinguish between maga and conservatives. I don’t want to see lemmy become an echo chamber, and usually you can disagree but debate with conservatives. Fascists, not so much. Don’t get me wrong, I think Nazis should be stomped online and out in the world - I just haven’t seen anything yet from this instance to justify that.

        I actually feel kinda sorry for oldskool conservatives - I don’t agree with em, but they must feel politically homeless these days.

        But yeah, bigots can fuck right off.

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    • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why tolerate the intolerant? They can host whatever they want, but there’s no reason not to exclude them if they intend on bringing harm. Tbh the word “excluded” doesn’t really fit, exclusion would be like someone getting kicked out of a bar, defederating would be more like the bouncer not letting you in.

      At the end of the day even if it’s gonna be defederated by every other instance, nobody’s gonna forbid them from starting their own “bar” like the one shown, which means they’re not really excluded from the fediverse.

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      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think we should tolerate them. This is what we always hear from them when we tell them to fuck off - how many times have we seen “So much for the tolerant left!” Yeah, we are tolerant of pretty much anything that doesn’t harm others - aside from intolerance itself.

        I dunno, I just don’t like the idea of defeding ppl just because of their political leanings. I’d rather wait til they start spewing hateful shit and then defed the fuckers.

        But I can understand ppl who wanna keep lemmy clean of bigots. I just think we gotta wait til they show their colours then kick them to the curb. That’s me, though, I respect that others don’t feel the same.

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    • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      that doesn’t mean I think they should be excluded.

      Well, I think they should be excluded. Due to the Nazi Bar phenomena.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I remember when /r/the_Donald was just “parody”. Remember what happened there?

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  • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, remember what more recently happened with /c/conservative?

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I don’t think that I do

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      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So super short version is a conservative dude or three tried to create /c/conservative and were immediately drowned out and made fun of, then they transferred moderation to others who now use it to make fun of republicans

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• thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  it is a parody seemingly, according to @gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de’s comment

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