You don’t think that maybe trump just doesn’t wait for a news article to be posted? Maybe he got a call and since he’s incessantly posting tweets he did it before an editor could approve the news article change? There’s a lot more simple explanations.
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Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
Tinfoil hat time: Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery, which has a very high mortality rating. This wasn’t a lucky shot, this was well aimed. If you look at the tape, it doesn’t look like someone in the crowd had a gun, no one in the crowd was reacting before the shot occurred, and no one saw a gun pulled. In the crowd full of people, how to you avoid everyone else and make a kill shot like that. I legit believe this was a shot taken from far away with the ability to make a sniper shot like that. Then, before he’s been officially pronounced dead, Trump posts “The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!” Trump wrote on his social media platform. If he hasn’t officially been declared dead, why is Trump saying that Charlie Kirk is dead. Next Trump is blaming the left with no proof. I’m calling it, Trump had Kirk assassinated as a false flag operation, and this will be trump’s reischtag fire. Buckle up.
tyler@programming.dev 12 hours ago
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
Yes, this is also highly likely, which is why I started my post with “tin foil hat time.” Even if that’s the case, even if the govt had 0 involvement in his death, I still think this incident will be used as a means for trump to further solidify power.
python@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Based on the close up of the shooting, it looks like he got shot right in the corrotid artery,
There are two carotid arteries. Based on the footage, it looks to me like only his left carotid artery got hit. It would make sense because bullets make a way bigger hole when exiting than they do when entering.
I don’t think anyone, no matter how skilled they are, would be aiming to do that. It’s way more likely to be a failed headshot or shot to the torso.shalafi@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
There is video of a person dressed in black skedaddling back over the rooftop, clearly the shooter. No sane shooter is aiming for the neck, hell no. Pretty sure it was a chest shot that tumbled around his ribcage and exited his neck. Weird shit happens when a teeny projectile hits meat and bone at 3,400FPS.
AA5B@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
false flag operation
Claims like this give both too much credit for action and too little to strategy.
- there’s no reason to believe this specific action was a false flag operation when in the current environment it’s simple to believe a radicalized individual
- isn’t that one of the benefits of the continuous hatred, outrage, divisiveness, chaos? There’s always going to be stuff like this happening, so you always have an event to capitalize on without the risk of doing it yourself
yeather@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Patches@ttrpg.network 9 hours ago
Excuse me but what is he talking about?
“America was about to come together against its true enemy?”
Everyone reading this is going to think the " true" enemy is someone else.
We have not been this divided as a country since we went to war with ourselves.
yeather@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
Which is the one group both groups politicians shill for.
Which group currently blackmails both sides of the aisle.
Which group funds politicians on both sides of the aisle to keep American taxpayers sending billion of dollars a year despite their current genocide and souring tensions with the world.
Talaraine@fedia.io 8 hours ago
I dunno, this happening right around the same time the Senate voted YET AGAIN against the release of the Epstein files may be a thing
Vupware@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Ockham’s Razor
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
On the day before 9/11 of all days.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 7 hours ago
+1
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
The shooting spot was about 250 yards away. That’s WWII sniping range, but not particularly far for modern precision rifles. According to Ryan Cleckner (US Army Ranger sniper), precision marksman training in the Army still uses iron sights out to 600 yards. A good setup these days can hit a dinner plate (read: a human head) at 1000 yards, and that’s not even pushing it.
They didn’t have to hit him the neck. They just needed to hit is general head area. They got lucky hitting the artery dead on, but any head hit has a very high probability of death.
There are millions of bench rest shooters with a bolt action rifle who could make that shot.
The_v@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
If you have a regular 30.06 bullet with a rifle sighted in at 200 yards, it will hit around 5" lower than you aim at 250 yards depending on the gun and conditions.
If you have it sighted in at 300 yards and aim for center mass right the bullet will hit around 5" above where they are aiming.
In both conditions the bullet hits the neck area.
SGforce@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Also, I don’t know if people train for downward sloped shots. He may have over/under corrected.
The_v@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Not usually in my experience. Almost all target shooting is on relatively flat ranges. Especially not for ranges that short.
For those that don’t know, when firing down the slope the effect of gravity decreases the bullets velocity loss. So the bullet transverses the distance in less time and drops less over a given distance.
When firing up a slope the bullet loses velocity due to gravity. So it drops more due to the extra time it takes for the bullet to transverse the distance.
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Whoever did it, at least we know (s)he had to be part of a well regulated militia
MNByChoice@midwest.social 9 hours ago
That is the nice thing about the American Way. Just call up the neighboring states’ militias and ask who didn’t show up for drills and if any weapons are missing.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 12 hours ago
Shooter was probably aiming for head and the bullet lost a few inches of altitude in the air
shalafi@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Shooter was also aiming down, which is not a thing one can typically practice.