If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.
Just to offer an alternative view.
Comment on YouTube is now flagging accounts on Premium family plans that aren't in the same household
Hayduke@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I have to hand it to them, they are really good at finding new, innovative ways to make the platform worse.
sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I pay nothing for YouTube and don’t get ads. YMMV
int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
same here, I use invidious!
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
yewtu.be FTW!
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I get no ads, and I’m not logged in for them to track me and sell my data.
techt@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Weird number of downvotes here – I thought they were meant for low-effort or non contributive comments, not an “I disagree” button. This person is giving a unique perspective as a subscriber (in this thread, anyway) and should be met with curiosity, I think. It is helpful to know that there are people who enjoy paying for it, so thanks for giving your opinion here.
I disagree because they have a dominant position for reasons other than having a good product – they squash competition trying to make the space better while themselves actively making it worse. Subscribing means supporting that style of inhibiting innovation, not to mention the other user-hostile practices they embrace (extend, extinguish). They are an ad company and obligated to make a profit, I get that, but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices. If your product is good, it shouldn’t need to be artificially propped up.
M1ch431@slrpnk.net 7 hours ago
but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices.
No company should be praised or rewarded for emulating the moves that made companies like Walmart and Amazon big.
This capitalist hellscape would be slightly more tolerable if there was ample competition in every space. Companies need to be motivated to make their profit in ways that please the consumer, but also in ways that are increasingly more ethical.
But truly, as they say, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Modern slavery and third-world exploitation…even child slavery are rampant in our supply chains and offshore manufacturing.
archonet@lemy.lol 1 day ago
“If you just give them your wallet right away, the mugging isn’t so bad, really. They didn’t even kick my teeth in!” 🤓
sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It’s a product. You can buy it or not. If you don’t think it’s worth it, stay away, or stay on the free tier. You’re acting as if you’ve got some kind of right to use a service that’s provided by a commercial entity.
archonet@lemy.lol 1 day ago
and it’s a multi-billion dollar corporation, that already makes more money than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes, that actively strives to make the user experience worse for people who don’t pay, when they’ve got a practical monopoly in the “free video sharing platform” space. And you’re whiteknighting for them. 🤡 Image
lobut@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I’ll join you in the downvotes. There’s many reasons to hate YouTube. Asking them to pay for video content to everyone for free is a bit silly.
I’m also not saying you shouldn’t use alternatives or run an ad-blocker. Those are cool. I just find it funny how someone is saying: “I get some benefit in paying for this service” results in such backlash, lol.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
I’m willing to sacrifice some of my valuable internet points here and be down voted to low hell.
I was going to make a comment along those lines.
They are, at the core, an ad company. Their motivation is to make money, and we are free to pay or not pay for their services.
The idea that we have a right to a non essential product for free is entitlement. They make a shit load of money, but also pay money to most content creators. Could they provide a service where they essentially just pay for costs? Sure, but no for profit Corp is going to do that, it has to make money somehow. While I’m all for peer tube, I really don’t know if it’s sustainable.
I wonder how many of the people who demand free access to services donate to FOSS Development.
Maybe some form of consumer co-op, where users essentially pay for operating costs, could be an option.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a “product” that profits billions off other people’s - often stolen - works.
HerbieBangkok@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
This community is a toxic craphole. Just watch how they will be defend Steam which is a comparable service that steals from and exploits game developers.
grue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wow, shilling for YouTube premium and anti-net-neutrality (the “discount through your phone company” part) in one comment.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t think that has anything to do with net neutrality
grue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Allowing ISPs to pick and choose winners among web services is absolutely what Net Neutrality is about. Bundling or discounting subscriptions isn’t technically the same thing as zero-rating, but the end result of making a particular ISP-preferred service cheaper than alternatives is the same.
sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Is recommending a product that you’re satisfied with “shilling”?
Is there a product in this world that you think is worth the price? Does that make you a shill?
Broken@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
I’m OK with your opinion and I appreciate hearing an alternate view to offset the echo chamber effect.
But for a lot of us, or at least me, its far deeper than just cost and ads.
It’s the fact that steps keep being taken to make the platform worse. They don’t want the platform usable unless you pay, and in this case they’re even taking a stab at the people who pay…you don’t pay enough in their mind.
If they had balls, they would just make it a closed platform. Pay to access, and restrict that per account IP. But they’d rather gaslight everybody and slowly turn up he heat so the frogs don’t jump out if the pot. This way they maximize their profits for longer. Point of all of that is, they don’t care about he platform or service at all.
For me, its not even about that. Their algorithm was so jacked up I was sick of being fed videos I didn’t want to see over and over, and videos I’ve already watched over and over. That’s why they added the subscription bell…because you would subscribe to things you wanted to watch and they never showed it to you. It wasn’t “you” tube it was “their” tube.
I bailed on them years ago. I still watch some content on there because there really isn’t a viable alternative. I use a scraper that gives me a feed of just what I want and without ads. I watch what I like and move on with my day. I’m back in control of my video viewing.
overload@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Do you have a means of removing sponsors on the mobile app though? Revanced has sponsorblock and adblock in the app.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 17 hours ago
Sponsorblock works perfectly fine on Firefox Mobile
sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
You mean removing sponsor led segments inside a video? Sort of. The jump ahead feature, which I think is a premium feature, allows you to jump in the video based on where everywhere else is jumping in the video. So when a sponsored segment starts and you skip forward 30s (double tap on mobile, ‘k’ on PC) you are offered to jump ahead. You click that and you get to the end of the sponsored segment.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Do you pay them or did they pay you?
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Deactivated Premium recently. I used their music app when driving – expecting some ads now - nope, it just doesn’t allow running in the background anymore.
Seems like such a hostile thing - I’d like to think running ads would be a positive net income for them. (Now that I think of it - maybe they don’t have it built out into their music service.)
sucius@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Revanced
ChanchoManco@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
This you can even use YouTube Music with it.
Broken@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Makes me long for the days of google music. It just worked. Streamed stuff and even allowed you to stream your own library that you had stored in drive. I would use that in the car. Then they ditched it for YouTube music, which was a worse experience and lacked the features.
lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
That old days when Google was cool and not evil.