Correction: IT people hate printers.
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McMonster@programming.dev 1 month ago
IT people hate computers.
CyberTaco@lemmy.world 1 month ago
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Correction: printers hate people.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 month ago
As a non-IT person, fuck HP in particular.
qqq@lemmy.world 1 month ago
PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?
AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 1 month ago
Fuck printers
Nom one inventée a good printer still
Kramkar@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I have read this ten times now, and I still can’t figure out what it is supposed to mean…
AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu 1 month ago
Printers are known in IT to be a utter pain in the ass. Most brands are also using a lot of proprietary stuff and it limits interoperability. Drivers for example.
Well known example is about ink cartridges. HP added identification chips on them, so if you want to use an other brand, not HP, to fill your printer, you can’t because if no chip is detected despite a cartridge being inserted, the machine will tell you it is not genuine.
Another example with Rycoh. I don’t know if their printers still use this method, so take it as an example of capitalist greed more than a current situation. Laser printers are using a sealed container to process waste created during printing. Rycoh had placed a led detector inside to know when it was full and trigger an alert, stopping the machine and request for a change. Good idea in theory but in practice the detector was placed very oddly or on purpose near or in front of dust intake. So it was bathed very quickly in electrostatic dust and thus triggered the alarm very quickly, even if your container was not fully filled. The only way to solve this was to shake your waste storage, hoping it would clean the led enough to keep going for a few days or change it.
Devadander@lemmy.world 1 month ago
No, computers
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 month ago
IT people hate other people using a computer
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 month ago
I once had to watch a co-worker scroll to the bottom of a list using the little arrow buttons on the end of the scrollbar. Clicking, not holding.
That’s what my hell would be like. Doing IT support without being able to wrench the mouse out of their hands.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I hate my computer as well. That’s why I have to modify it to something completely different before I am able to use it without crying.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I’m an IT person and I like computers, as long as they’ve never been turned on and they stay that way.
RadicalCandour@startrek.website 5 weeks ago
This absolutely applies to me. I’m so sick of computers and software and security and subscriptions and vendors. I just want my own animal sanctuary with chickens and otters and baby goats god dammit!
abir_v@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Many IT people love computers. They hate computers that other people use.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
IT people hate users. IT people hate other IT people. We’re just a surly lot.
thessnake03@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You just made an enemy for life!
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You IT people sure are a contentious bunch.
AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 1 month ago
I’ve had the privilege of working with users with actual computer training. Old ladies who started working on terminals in the 70s and 80s. They were awesome, because they actually understood what they were doing. They could give me an accurate description of what they were doing when shit went wrong. They had real concerns and realistic requests for improvement. And they never blamed the computer when they encountered something they didn’t understand. They’re all dead or retired now.
Todays computer illiterate workforce is doomed to be incompetent because they don’t understand how their main tool works. Nobody bothered to train them.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The complicated thing here is there are so many layers of abstraction to make things easier to use and understand that if you didn’t age with the tech, it’s really hard to fully understand. That’s everything. I see Angular and React developers who don’t understand CSS.
My last position, we had classes that set sizes for everything in multiples of 4 pixels. So size-1 is 4 pixels, size-2 is 8 pixels, etc. And everything was sized with those classes. Which means if you ever wanted to resize anything, you have to go to every element and change the class instead of you know, having input controls have distinct classes.
People are layering on abstraction without understanding why and throwing away all the benefits, time to invent another abstraction layer! I had my tech lead argue with me that this was a better system because “standards”. I’m going to assume the standard was poorly understood because I can’t imagine a multi-billion dollar company hires idiots to set standards.
I got started learning transistors and Boolean algebra and programming an 8088(?) in college. Had computers for a few years before that. It’s surprising how conditionals I see that can be simplified by Boolean algebra.
I don’t actually hate computers, and I try to give IT workers some grace because I’m not always proud of the work I do when I have to finish 3 months of work in two weeks. But I’ve worked with a lot of folks who aren’t curious or looking to learn and improve, and I have to wonder why they ever got into IT in the first place.
For me the worst part of IT is the god damned management. Any possible productivity gains from agile are undercut at every turn by management who has to have a concrete promise of a delivery date before they even understand the ask.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. Started my long weekend early and starting a new job next week, so I have a lot of pent up rants from my last company.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 1 month ago
We’re all standing on the shoulders of giants, but there are so many layers of giants that it’s hard to see the ground.
riskable@programming.dev 1 month ago
Ahahahahahahaha! Oh man, you got a good laugh out of me this morning 🤣
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Thing is, back in those days computers were deterministic.
A certain action caused a certain reaction, and always the same reaction (given the same context).
Anyone could learn that, as long as they bothered to read the screen (a surprisingly rare talent, to be fair).
Now, at least on windows, it’s anyone’s guess what random mayhem a certain action might cause, or where the interface to perform that action has gone after the last update, supposing it still exists and the system survived the update.
No one can learn that. And anyone foolish enough to try will certainly be driven insane.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
There also so many things restricting the usage of the tool. Every week my scanner tells me it has a new software update and I cannot install a simple update without admin access, so I have to call help desk and have them remote into my computer so they can click the “ok” botton.
Everything is so walled off there’s no reason to learn how any of it works because you have no access. When the security bios update (forget what it was called) fucked everyone’s computers last year I found a fix online and could have easily went to several locations and got them up and running, but no one on site has the access to boot into safe mode and instead we all just sat on hold with help desk for 2 days waiting for IT to do the thing I already knew how to do.
HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Are you talking about the Crowdstrike incident?
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It seems to run on some form of electricity.
happysplinter@lemmy.world 1 month ago
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DScratch@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH!
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
true, but we also hate computers
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
We hate ones setup by other people or used by other users. Our own network is a glorious shrine to the one true faith.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Can’t argue with that… until something goes wrong and I hate it (really just mad at myself)
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
My laptop windows 11? No problem. Anyone elses windows? Fucking burn it.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
IT people hate people then? Checks out to me actually
baines@lemmy.cafe 1 month ago
BTKAC error