Comment on The Browser Wasn’t Enough, Google Wants To Control All Your Software

flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Wait until Google locks the bootloader.

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  • finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I know that the GrapheneOS team have mumbled about the possibility of working on their own device. Although, this would probably be a long way off if it ever did come to fruition.

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    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe shit like this will push them down that road faster. We need options for sure.

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      • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Donate to the project. Graphene is run by a very small group of people who are very good at automation.

        I don’t think they could effectively produce a whole new platform unless they had a lot more help.

        If you value privacy, gonna have to crack open the wallet or volunteer to help.

        If we just hope someone will save us, we are going to be very disappointed.

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• Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But, what happens when Google decides to no longer the option to unlock the bootloader for future phones? It’s the future that is the concern when it comes to the degoogle options available.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Then the community shifts to a different model, or puts more resources behind mobile Linux projects, and all that would need to happen is something like what Valve did for Linux for the Steam Deck.

    I’m ready to switch to a Linux phone as soon as I can find one where the basic phone features work properly (MMS, wake from sleep, camera, etc). The more people like me can switch, the closer we’ll be to mainstream adoption. That’s the same process as Linux has been going through: I switched before Steam on Linux was a thing, then Steam came and more switched, then Proton made windows games work and more switched, etc, and now we’re seeing the start of “normal” people switching.

    I hope that happens before my Pixel 8 goes out of support or breaks.

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    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      furilabs.com/shop/flx1/

      I’m already seriously considering giving this a go as my next phone soon. My current phone is desperately in need of replacement.

      If it goes well I will be vocal about it.

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      • needanke@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS

        If I were to switch to a Linux phone I’d want it to be made for an open and trusted OS, not the (unknown to me at least) manufacturers own.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, it looks cool, but I’m not really in a position to be a guinea pig. If they were around 2 years ago, I probably would’ve given it a shot.

        I am looking for another phone at some point in the next year (kids getting about that age), so if I hear good things, I might just pull the trigger. It is a bit chonkier than my current phone, which isn’t great (30mm longer, 10mm wider, and 110g heavier), but according to reviews, it seems to fix all the issues I have w/ the PinePhone.

        Who knows, maybe your review will push me over the edge in deciding to get it.

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• markko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Sucks that it only works on devices made by Google though…

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  • flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You have LineageOS for many other devices.

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• Tlf@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Is it good?

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s very “meh…” with the added benefit of several (non-google) apps not working. I choose to live with this inconvenience, but it still bothers me that my smartphone is significantly less useful with grapheneOS in my daily life.

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    • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You always have a choice. You can ditch your morals entirely, give up, be subservient to the capitalists and give your identity over fully to the system like the good little consumer slave you are and enjoy your normie life looking at your normie phone and toss us all out as tinfoil-hatted weirdos who almost convinced you to make your life worse for the sake of self-sufficiency, independence and privacy.

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh yes I forgot that pointing out the flaws in privacy-related things, so people who are interested in switching know what they’re potentially getting in to, is a big NoNo here…all hail the perfect FOSS which can do no wrong.

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      • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Dead Kennedys were prophetic when they named one of their albums “Give me convenience or give me death”.

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Honestly, smart phones being less useful in daily life is probably a good thing.

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    • markko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Having not used default Android for many years now, what makes GrapheneOS worse (aside from a few apps not working - which isn’t an issue I’ve had, fortunately)?

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        GrapheneOS is not worse than other custom ROMs, never said it was. it’s a mediocre experience best described with a “meh…” and a shrug.

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  • 2deck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes, ive had zero issues with it 👍

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  • DJDarren@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I went from 15 years of iPhones directly to Graphene, without really messing with Android in between, so my experience has been a STEEP learning curve, followed by a fairly hum-drum experience. But honestly, that’s fine. I want my phone to take more of a back seat and not be something I keep needing to worry about.

    My banking app doesn’t work in Graphene, but the website does, so I don’t really mind.

    It could that there’s a whole bunch of shit I’m missing, but mostly it’s… fine.

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You have to pay google to use it (only works on pixel phones afaik).

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    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s a thriving used market with significant discounts if you’re willing to go 1-2 models back from the latest ones.

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  • flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes, light and my apps work without draining the battery in the background.

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• kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What kind of phone?

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  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I want to know, too. I got a Samsung s23 when my last phone suddenly died and I only then realized thar it wasn’t compatible.

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    • Rainbowblite@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The joke is that GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel phones.

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      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fuck Google!

        Gives Google $900

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      • magguzu@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You can get a cheap refurb Pixel. The returns are very diminishing these days on new models anyway.

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      • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I noticed that, and they are expensive.

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  • flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Pixel 6

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• nomadjoanne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The issue isn’t that. It’s that devs may juat abandon projects if they’re too naughty for Google cos the custom ROM crowd is so tiny.

  Right so think torrent clients, idk, Pornhub app, that sort of thing. Yeah, it doesn’t affect your phone. But it absolutely will affect what software is available at all should Google clamp down on this.

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